what is best [ POLL ]

**nlm908** · 05-19-2007, 06:03 AM

like title says what is best for a pvp fire sorc
ES fire sorc OR
vita fire sorc

eh also please tell why u picked what u did please

**John** · 05-19-2007, 03:51 PM

all life so u can just use max dmg fcr items. when you try to balance huge mana with fcr and resists and damage, something is usually lacking, in most cases your fcr or kill damage. my 7k mana sorc only did 14k fireball, there was never enough room for more damage. all vita

**nlm908** · 05-20-2007, 05:26 AM

yea i made a es fire sorc and i do 13k-14k dmg and a long itme ago i made a all fire and i knwo she did a lot more then that jsut cant think how muich more been to long.....25K+ i think.....did u find that u live longer with all via or 95% es?
thanks for ur info

**Mathalamus** · 05-20-2007, 08:00 AM

not ES

**nlm908** · 05-21-2007, 02:51 AM

so es is not very good for fire sorc's??

**Mr Mellow** · 05-23-2007, 02:35 AM

I would say ES even though your DMG is way lower but you will last longer.
Cuz you can reach 7k+ mana really ez.
But... Most battles don't really last that long. So you will blast away with your FB's and such and when they touch you, you can out live it, cuz without ES your most likely to die in one-three hits anyway.
But with ES you can take like 7 maybe and be able to get away and let your warmth re-heal your mana pool.

Even though some people will say BM!!! BM!!!!!
But you vs a 200 fcr fire sorc the other sorc is more likely to win.
So it can even out..

**FraterPerdurabo** · 05-23-2007, 06:54 AM

ES is good for 105%FCR, and max block if you want to.
If you are going 200% FCR, you won't go for either max block or ES, due to the massive mana loss.

Both are good. For all around, I'd say that ES is better all-around, although some really good sorcs have told me that in SvS, full VIT build beats ES.

**nlm908** · 05-23-2007, 08:59 AM

ok thanks i think im going to jsut make 2 fire ball sorcs 1 wioth es and one 200 fcr and see who i like more,ty 4 info

**Mr Mellow** · 05-24-2007, 05:30 AM

Your welcome, On sorc vs sorc though the best is a 200fcr Fire sorc, "Hands down"
They don't use ES cuz the lack of FCR and dmg.

**FraterPerdurabo** · 05-24-2007, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Mellow

Your welcome, On sorc vs sorc though the best is a 200fcr Fire sorc, "Hands down"
They don't use ES cuz the lack of FCR and dmg.

There is no major difference in damage between ES and full VIT builds.

**Bright** · 05-24-2007, 09:23 AM

I'd say ES fire sorc otherwise BvCs will have a high advantage against you.

**Mr Mellow** · 05-28-2007, 04:35 AM

What is the damage of 105 fcr ES build?
What is the damage of 200 fcr no ES build?

Then I can agree on it. lol

**Bright** · 05-28-2007, 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Mellow

What is the damage of 105 fcr ES build?
What is the damage of 200 fcr no ES build?

Then I can agree on it. lol

I cannot tell you that it's just from experience with me dueling them on my BvC they tank a lot but I still manage to kill them except for the very experienced ones they are way harder and it takes more time to kill them.

**omgbbq** · 07-18-2007, 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FraterPerdurabo

There is no major difference in damage between ES and full VIT builds.

of course not...if you think 7k damage is nothing, there is no major difference in damage at all...

**KazeCloud** · 07-18-2007, 02:33 AM

With es when your mana is drained to zero, the delay for it to replenish enough for mana is an easy time for the opponent to finish you off. Even so I voted for ES. Mana *** isnt bm is it? lol

**omgbbq** · 07-23-2007, 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KazeCloud

With es when your mana is drained to zero, the delay for it to replenish enough for mana is an easy time for the opponent to finish you off. Even so I voted for ES. Mana *** isnt bm is it? lol

you must be new to d2. i suggest you to read up what telekinesis does for energy shield before you post lines of bullshit.

edit: and yes mana *** is bm for es sorcs, sheesh.

**KazeCloud** · 07-23-2007, 02:39 AM

Pouring points into telekinesis would mean I lose points from another skill, for it requires hard skill points. Not everybody puts points into telekinesis. And it is not my style of playing. Sorry that my post cause you to curse at me.

Sorry I am a noob.

**omgbbq** · 08-08-2007, 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KazeCloud

Pouring points into telekinesis would mean I lose points from another skill, for it requires hard skill points. Not everybody puts points into telekinesis. And it is not my style of playing. Sorry that my post cause you to curse at me.

Sorry I am a noob.

you could go pure vita for svs but in sva, you will be raped if you go full vita.

iNSAN3-L3FTYX20 · 10-24-2007, 08:45 AM

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View Poll Results: what is best 4 pvp ES fire sorc OR no es fire sorc
ES fire sorc	9	50.00%
NO ES fire sorc	9	50.00%
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05-19-2007, 06:03 AM	#1 (permalink)
nlm908 Status: Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 60 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: 0:12:16 Hours Rep Power: 2	like title says what is best for a pvp fire sorc ES fire sorc OR vita fire sorc eh also please tell why u picked what u did please Last edited by nlm908; 05-19-2007 at 06:03 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

05-19-2007, 03:51 PM	#2 (permalink)
John Status: Sleepwalking Past Hope Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,223 Credits: 78 Spent time on board: 5 Days and 16:58:13 Hours Rep Power: 5	all life so u can just use max dmg fcr items. when you try to balance huge mana with fcr and resists and damage, something is usually lacking, in most cases your fcr or kill damage. my 7k mana sorc only did 14k fireball, there was never enough room for more damage. all vita __________________ i just make this sig recently to teach people not to play with fire.

05-20-2007, 08:00 AM	#4 (permalink)
Mathalamus Status: Soviet Mathal empire Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: calgary Posts: 1,786 Credits: 292 Spent time on board: 4 Days and 7:58:02 Hours Rep Power: 6	not ES __________________

05-24-2007, 09:23 AM	#11 (permalink)
Bright Status: Veteran Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 211 Credits: 29 Spent time on board: 10:16:17 Hours Rep Power: 2	I'd say ES fire sorc otherwise BvCs will have a high advantage against you. __________________ Number Uno. There can only be one Bright.

05-20-2007, 05:26 AM	#3 (permalink)
nlm908 Status: Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 60 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: 0:12:16 Hours Rep Power: 2	yea i made a es fire sorc and i do 13k-14k dmg and a long itme ago i made a all fire and i knwo she did a lot more then that jsut cant think how muich more been to long.....25K+ i think.....did u find that u live longer with all via or 95% es? thanks for ur info

05-21-2007, 02:51 AM	#5 (permalink)
nlm908 Status: Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 60 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: 0:12:16 Hours Rep Power: 2	so es is not very good for fire sorc's??

05-23-2007, 02:35 AM	#6 (permalink)
Mr Mellow Status: Veteran Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Shady Cove, Oregon//US Posts: 168 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: 2:40:26 Hours Rep Power: 3	I would say ES even though your DMG is way lower but you will last longer. Cuz you can reach 7k+ mana really ez. But... Most battles don't really last that long. So you will blast away with your FB's and such and when they touch you, you can out live it, cuz without ES your most likely to die in one-three hits anyway. But with ES you can take like 7 maybe and be able to get away and let your warmth re-heal your mana pool. Even though some people will say BM!!! BM!!!!! But you vs a 200 fcr fire sorc the other sorc is more likely to win. So it can even out..

05-23-2007, 06:54 AM	#7 (permalink)
FraterPerdurabo Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: London Posts: 3,801 Credits: 172 Spent time on board: 2 Days and 5:30:10 Hours Rep Power: 12	ES is good for 105%FCR, and max block if you want to. If you are going 200% FCR, you won't go for either max block or ES, due to the massive mana loss. Both are good. For all around, I'd say that ES is better all-around, although some really good sorcs have told me that in SvS, full VIT build beats ES.

05-23-2007, 08:59 AM	#8 (permalink)
nlm908 Status: Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 60 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: 0:12:16 Hours Rep Power: 2	ok thanks i think im going to jsut make 2 fire ball sorcs 1 wioth es and one 200 fcr and see who i like more,ty 4 info

05-24-2007, 05:30 AM	#9 (permalink)
Mr Mellow Status: Veteran Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Shady Cove, Oregon//US Posts: 168 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: 2:40:26 Hours Rep Power: 3	Your welcome, On sorc vs sorc though the best is a 200fcr Fire sorc, "Hands down" They don't use ES cuz the lack of FCR and dmg.

05-28-2007, 04:35 AM	#12 (permalink)
Mr Mellow Status: Veteran Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Shady Cove, Oregon//US Posts: 168 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: 2:40:26 Hours Rep Power: 3	What is the damage of 105 fcr ES build? What is the damage of 200 fcr no ES build? Then I can agree on it. lol

07-18-2007, 02:33 AM	#15 (permalink)
KazeCloud Status: *** Elder Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Stockton, California Posts: 1,221** Credits: 340 Spent time on board: 1 Week, 0 Days and 3:23:37 Hours Rep Power: 4	With es when your mana is drained to zero, the delay for it to replenish enough for mana is an easy time for the opponent to finish you off. Even so I voted for ES. Mana *** isnt bm is it? lol __________________ Please add to my Reputation if you find my post reasonable, beneficial, or helpful. Thanks. =]

07-23-2007, 02:39 AM	#17 (permalink)
KazeCloud Status: *** Elder Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Stockton, California Posts: 1,221** Credits: 340 Spent time on board: 1 Week, 0 Days and 3:23:37 Hours Rep Power: 4	Pouring points into telekinesis would mean I lose points from another skill, for it requires hard skill points. Not everybody puts points into telekinesis. And it is not my style of playing. Sorry that my post cause you to curse at me. Sorry I am a noob. __________________ Please add to my Reputation if you find my post reasonable, beneficial, or helpful. Thanks. =] Last edited by KazeCloud; 07-23-2007 at 02:41 AM.

10-24-2007, 08:45 AM	#19 (permalink)
iNSAN3-L3FTYX20 Status: Newcomer Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Eagle Point, Oregon Posts: 12 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: 1:16:08 Hours Rep Power: 1	I am lacking in the required post count on this site to post a URL. I am sorry that I did not know this and I will make an effort to correct this. Last edited by iNSAN3-L3FTYX20; 10-24-2007 at 08:46 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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