Energy Shield Frozen Orb Sorceress (Help Please) - Blizzard Sector

Popular · 07-19-2006, 03:54 PM

I need to know two things:

A) What should the ratio of Vitality to Energy be?
B) In what order should I max the following skills: Ice Bolt, Frozen Orb, Cold Mastery, Telekenisis, and Energy Shield?

Thank you in advance guys.

**A.D.** · 07-19-2006, 04:18 PM

Level ice bolt to 20, then place points in Orb/master (I alternated between lvls). Place a single point into ES, and place the rest into telekensis. All extra points afterwards place into ES. Also spend the two points to get shiver armor somewhere along the way for a substanial defense boost.

As for Vita/Energy... Its a toss up. From what I have seen if you are 100% completely outfitted for damage/FCR/Regen then you can squeak by with under 80 points.

But I personally found that if you don't have very good gear or are using it to MF, there is no harm in having like 100 in vita and about 300 in energy. With high levels of ES much of the damage gets deferred to your mana, and with a good Insight merc it will rarely rob you of all mana. On a side note if you are going to put scads of points into energy, don't forget totally about vita. Poison damage still passes through ES.

**Bloodangel26** · 07-19-2006, 05:41 PM

A. 100% to 0%
B. orb, mastery, icebolt, teleken, shiver armor

**omgbbq** · 07-20-2006, 03:42 AM

blood are u joking? 0 energy? the whole point of energy shield is to absorb damage from life to mana. even thought telekinesis reduces the damage, you need mana. and what about mana burning monsters huh?

**Bloodangel26** · 07-20-2006, 03:45 AM

guess i've never had bad enough gear that i need more points in energy...sorry, i have limited experience as a newb

**Kuri** · 07-20-2006, 03:55 AM

the skills are informed
what gear u will use ?
if 10x bmanas u just put into vita
if u will use jsut life/manas scs
u will need like 50% for life / 50 % for mana

**FraterPerdurabo** · 07-20-2006, 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bloodangel26

guess i've never had bad enough gear that i need more points in energy...sorry, i have limited experience as a newb

You don't really need VIT for an ES build, since mana gives more "life" than VIT.

**Bloodangel26** · 07-20-2006, 04:54 AM

why would i put it mana though when i never run out even when i get hit by things? the only time i've ever run out of mana was mana burn guys...and more mana wouldnt help with them, since they burn it all up

Popular · 07-20-2006, 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bloodangel26

why would i put it mana though when i never run out even when i get hit by things? the only time i've ever run out of mana was mana burn guys...and more mana wouldnt help with them, since they burn it all up

You're either lying or you're just damn lucky. You need 100 in energy, you should have at least 1k mana.

**Bloodangel26** · 07-20-2006, 05:18 AM

yes cause mods lie all the time...i just know how to build chars so that they dont run out of mana without wasting points. i'm sorry if you dont, but its not my fault

**FraterPerdurabo** · 07-20-2006, 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bloodangel26

yes cause mods lie all the time...i just know how to build chars so that they dont run out of mana without wasting points. i'm sorry if you dont, but its not my fault

Blood, if you have 95%ES, you will need much, much more mana than any other build, because your mana is your life. That's why mana boots and other pieces of such equipment are very expensive. For example, if someone deals 7k physical damage to you, you will first calculate the PvP penalty:
7000x0.17=1190
then let's say some DR%, for example 8% from Eni or CoH:
92% of 1190=1047
So, instead of taking 1047 damage, 95% of that gets taken from your mana, so you will only lose:
1047/20=52 life.

That's the reason for 95%ES sorcs are BM. Some of them can have ~5k mana, with awesome regeneration, meaning that they take so little damage, due to that, they don't even go to their FHR frame.

**Bloodangel26** · 07-20-2006, 06:02 AM

I dont have 95%es. its more like 70ish

**FraterPerdurabo** · 07-20-2006, 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bloodangel26

I dont have 95%es. its more like 70ish

Therefore yours isn't a full ES build, which is fine for most duels, I believe. Also, it won't be BM, because you probably don't have too much mana. Pure ES sorcs can tank like 5 Tornados before they lose their mana, in the process of which they will lose ~200 hp.

**Kuri** · 07-20-2006, 06:28 AM

man .
if u make a sorc with 900 life / 5k mana and low es u'll get pwned really easy
my sorc has 2.1 / 2.7k mana / 70-73 es
and i tank alot

**FraterPerdurabo** · 07-20-2006, 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kuri

man .
if u make a sorc with 900 life / 5k mana and low es u'll get pwned really easy
my sorc has 2.1 / 2.7k mana / 70-73 es
and i tank alot

Reread what I wrote above. Why have life if mana is much more useful than life?

**Kuri** · 07-20-2006, 06:46 AM

well
if u have 5k mana and 900 life and low es
ur mana will get burned really ez
and u will die bcuz of low life

then if u get 95% es with 5k / 900 life will be gfg char
but ur char will get low dmg

**Arc** · 07-20-2006, 08:41 AM

for orb es sorc i would balance life and mana, that way if u get mana burned your still not entirely screwed unless ur cornered, maybe 200 vit rest mana

**FraterPerdurabo** · 07-20-2006, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kuri

well
if u have 5k mana and 900 life and low es
ur mana will get burned really ez
and u will die bcuz of low life

then if u get 95% es with 5k / 900 life will be gfg char
but ur char will get low dmg

Ya we are speaking of a pure ES build here so ofc you have 95%, and if you know how to build it properly, you can still get sweet damage.

Putting points into mana is useless if your build is not pure ES.

**omgbbq** · 07-22-2006, 01:11 AM

can u tell me the stats please for a frozen orb es build?

Popular · 07-22-2006, 02:22 AM

Look at my guide.

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07-19-2006, 03:54 PM	#1 (permalink)
Popular Status: Newcomer Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 36 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: 0:37:56 Hours Rep Power: 3	I need to know two things: A) What should the ratio of Vitality to Energy be? B) In what order should I max the following skills: Ice Bolt, Frozen Orb, Cold Mastery, Telekenisis, and Energy Shield? Thank you in advance guys.

07-19-2006, 04:18 PM	#2 (permalink)
A.D. Status: AlmostDeadly Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Boise, ID Posts: 1,161 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: - Rep Power: 5	Level ice bolt to 20, then place points in Orb/master (I alternated between lvls). Place a single point into ES, and place the rest into telekensis. All extra points afterwards place into ES. Also spend the two points to get shiver armor somewhere along the way for a substanial defense boost. As for Vita/Energy... Its a toss up. From what I have seen if you are 100% completely outfitted for damage/FCR/Regen then you can squeak by with under 80 points. But I personally found that if you don't have very good gear or are using it to MF, there is no harm in having like 100 in vita and about 300 in energy. With high levels of ES much of the damage gets deferred to your mana, and with a good Insight merc it will rarely rob you of all mana. On a side note if you are going to put scads of points into energy, don't forget totally about vita. Poison damage still passes through ES.

07-19-2006, 05:41 PM	#3 (permalink)
Bloodangel26 Status: I am Legend. Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,279 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0 Credits: 84 Spent time on board: 23:28:53 Hours Rep Power: 15	A. 100% to 0% B. orb, mastery, icebolt, teleken, shiver armor

07-20-2006, 03:42 AM	#4 (permalink)
omgbbq Status: Veteran Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Markham, Ontario. Posts: 296 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0 Credits: 7 Spent time on board: 7:21:58 Hours Rep Power: 3	blood are u joking? 0 energy? the whole point of energy shield is to absorb damage from life to mana. even thought telekinesis reduces the damage, you need mana. and what about mana burning monsters huh?

07-20-2006, 03:45 AM	#5 (permalink)
Bloodangel26 Status: I am Legend. Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,279 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0 Credits: 84 Spent time on board: 23:28:53 Hours Rep Power: 15	guess i've never had bad enough gear that i need more points in energy...sorry, i have limited experience as a newb

07-20-2006, 03:55 AM	#6 (permalink)
Kuri Status: Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Brasil Posts: 60 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: - Rep Power: 3	the skills are informed what gear u will use ? if 10x bmanas u just put into vita if u will use jsut life/manas scs u will need like 50% for life / 50 % for mana

07-20-2006, 04:54 AM	#8 (permalink)
Bloodangel26 Status: I am Legend. Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,279 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0 Credits: 84 Spent time on board: 23:28:53 Hours Rep Power: 15	why would i put it mana though when i never run out even when i get hit by things? the only time i've ever run out of mana was mana burn guys...and more mana wouldnt help with them, since they burn it all up

07-20-2006, 05:18 AM	#10 (permalink)
Bloodangel26 Status: I am Legend. Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,279 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0 Credits: 84 Spent time on board: 23:28:53 Hours Rep Power: 15	yes cause mods lie all the time...i just know how to build chars so that they dont run out of mana without wasting points. i'm sorry if you dont, but its not my fault

07-20-2006, 06:02 AM	#12 (permalink)
Bloodangel26 Status: I am Legend. Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,279 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0 Credits: 84 Spent time on board: 23:28:53 Hours Rep Power: 15	I dont have 95%es. its more like 70ish

07-20-2006, 06:28 AM	#14 (permalink)
Kuri Status: Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Brasil Posts: 60 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: - Rep Power: 3	man . if u make a sorc with 900 life / 5k mana and low es u'll get pwned really easy my sorc has 2.1 / 2.7k mana / 70-73 es and i tank alot

07-20-2006, 06:46 AM	#16 (permalink)
Kuri Status: Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Brasil Posts: 60 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: - Rep Power: 3	well if u have 5k mana and 900 life and low es ur mana will get burned really ez and u will die bcuz of low life then if u get 95% es with 5k / 900 life will be gfg char but ur char will get low dmg

07-22-2006, 01:11 AM	#19 (permalink)
omgbbq Status: Veteran Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Markham, Ontario. Posts: 296 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0 Credits: 7 Spent time on board: 7:21:58 Hours Rep Power: 3	can u tell me the stats please for a frozen orb es build?

07-22-2006, 02:22 AM	#20 (permalink)
Popular Status: Newcomer Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 36 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: 0:37:56 Hours Rep Power: 3	Look at my guide.