Hammerdin Vs Zealot

jujubah07 · 07-26-2004, 03:06 AM

Whats better? A Hammerdin or a Zealot?
Please tell me reasons for yer answers

**defaultstring2** · 07-26-2004, 03:09 AM

hammerdin

he could just spam hammers and the zealot wouldent be able to get close unless he had enigma, and teleing into the hammers is very risky

jujubah07 · 07-26-2004, 03:14 AM

hmm k could you tell me the exact skill placement for a hammerdin? and maybe stat placement as well? thanks

**defaultstring2** · 07-26-2004, 03:18 AM

lets see....

20 blessed hammer
20 concentrate
20 blessed aim
rest into holy shield

stats

strength - enough for gear
dex- enough for max block
vitality - rest goes here
energy- 100, maby 150

gear:
hoto, in flail for minimym requirements
2x soj
arachnids mesh
heart of zakarum
maras kalideskope
frostburn gauntlets
enigma in brestplate
sandstorm trek for boots
shako

k i think thats it

jujubah07 · 07-26-2004, 03:37 AM

what about vigor? someone told me to do vigor.. not real sure

**defaultstring2** · 07-26-2004, 03:42 AM

right
sry bout that
max that too
also it wiill help to have one point in medetation for mana recovery

**Rapta111** · 07-26-2004, 03:43 AM

other 1pt wonders are salvation, charge (preq), and redemption.

M-CHammer · 07-26-2004, 03:44 AM

yes ..max blessed aim and vigor..those are synergys for blessed hammer
and max conc because it increases your damage hardcore

**defaultstring2** · 07-26-2004, 03:44 AM

yep
all are good skills to sink 1 pt into

**Rapta111** · 07-26-2004, 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jujubah07

Whats better? A Hammerdin or a Zealot?
Please tell me reasons for yer answers

all depends on luck. and skill. A good zealot with enigma can teleport just under the hammeradin just a bit to the right, and tank the hell outta the hammerdin. Hammer is a very random skill and requires extreme expertist to be made effective in duels.

... and HOLY CRAP you ppl reply fast LOL

**defaultstring2** · 07-26-2004, 03:47 AM

hammerdin , once you get good at using it, is better then a zelot for doing rushes, etc....

btw what is teh best weapon for a zelot? eth botd zerker axe?

**Siluru** · 07-26-2004, 03:54 AM

in PvP.. it all depends, any good Zealot vs a regular hammerdin can whipe the hammerdin out, but it all depends if the zealot can get in quick enough before the hammerdin has those hammers going, my pally CAN kill hammerdins, but 2-3 hits from those blessed hammers and im toast

jujubah07 · 07-26-2004, 03:55 AM

ahh i forgot to mention im more of a pvm/rusher/mf guy.. so does that help any.. also what merc is good for my pally?

edit:

and not to mention im kinda poor so yea

**Siluru** · 07-26-2004, 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by defaultstring2

lets see....

20 blessed hammer
20 concentrate
20 blessed aim
rest into holy shield

stats

strength - enough for gear
dex- enough for max block
vitality - rest goes here
energy- 100, maby 150

gear:
hoto, in flail for minimym requirements
2x soj
arachnids mesh
heart of zakarum
maras kalideskope
frostburn gauntlets
enigma in brestplate
sandstorm trek for boots
shako

k i think thats it

1. Its called Herald of Zakarum, not Heart

2. Magefists own Frosties ^_^; so use magefists

jujubah07 · 07-26-2004, 04:36 AM

ahh i forgot to mention im more of a pvm/rusher/mf guy.. so does that help any.. also what merc is good for my pally?

edit:

and not to mention im kinda poor so yea

also will a hammerdin own hell pvm?

**ken2520** · 07-26-2004, 04:54 AM

yes hammerdins own hell quite easyly if u have the rite gear... all depends... hammerdins r mostly made for pvm becaz of most players say they r too rigged in pvp... they own ppl too fast doing over 14 k with the rite gear... in pvm it needs to be well lved and well equiped or else he is gonna get owned in pvm real fast...

edit: o ya forgot to mention that i think u r suppose to use a holy freeze guy i think im not quite sure but i think holy freeze would b the best choice...

**Silver Ice** · 07-26-2004, 05:26 AM

hammerdins own all but their kinda boring and lame just spamming hammers everywhere, wow exciting. zealots are fun but it all depends on if a zealot goes out, charges a hammerdin and can block lock him

**dim_sum** · 07-26-2004, 07:59 AM

Duelingwise, I'm confident zealer would win. Charge, Charge, Charge, Bang, Dead. The Hammerdin wouldn't be able to recover fast enough. And I'm talking the best of the best Paladins with perfect gear so definately Zealer.

**defaultstring2** · 07-27-2004, 01:24 AM

that would be a charger, not a zealot

**Rob** · 07-27-2004, 02:09 AM

Hammerdins would rape all of hell PvM considering his resists were high and he used some moderate +'s to skill. SS, Que-Hegan, Seraph(or maras if you can afford..), shako, verd's, raven's, wizzy..

A hammerdin can solo hell with that gear, trust me, cuz' mine does it just fine.

^Ladder, of course.

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07-26-2004, 03:06 AM	#1 (permalink)
jujubah07 Status: Newcomer Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 44 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: - Rep Power: 5	Whats better? A Hammerdin or a Zealot? Please tell me reasons for yer answers

07-26-2004, 03:09 AM	#2 (permalink)
defaultstring2 Status: Bloodthirsty Pimp Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: RI Posts: 1,810 Credits: 100 Spent time on board: 0:15:27 Hours Rep Power: 8	hammerdin he could just spam hammers and the zealot wouldent be able to get close unless he had enigma, and teleing into the hammers is very risky

07-26-2004, 03:14 AM	#3 (permalink)
jujubah07 Status: Newcomer Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 44 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: - Rep Power: 5	hmm k could you tell me the exact skill placement for a hammerdin? and maybe stat placement as well? thanks

07-26-2004, 03:18 AM	#4 (permalink)
defaultstring2 Status: Bloodthirsty Pimp Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: RI Posts: 1,810 Credits: 100 Spent time on board: 0:15:27 Hours Rep Power: 8	lets see.... 20 blessed hammer 20 concentrate 20 blessed aim rest into holy shield stats strength - enough for gear dex- enough for max block vitality - rest goes here energy- 100, maby 150 gear: hoto, in flail for minimym requirements 2x soj arachnids mesh heart of zakarum maras kalideskope frostburn gauntlets enigma in brestplate sandstorm trek for boots shako k i think thats it

07-26-2004, 03:37 AM	#5 (permalink)
jujubah07 Status: Newcomer Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 44 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: - Rep Power: 5	what about vigor? someone told me to do vigor.. not real sure

07-26-2004, 03:42 AM	#6 (permalink)
defaultstring2 Status: Bloodthirsty Pimp Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: RI Posts: 1,810 Credits: 100 Spent time on board: 0:15:27 Hours Rep Power: 8	right sry bout that max that too also it wiill help to have one point in medetation for mana recovery

07-26-2004, 03:43 AM	#7 (permalink)
Rapta111 Status: The Cow King!!! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Canada!!! Posts: 1,525 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: - Rep Power: 8	other 1pt wonders are salvation, charge (preq), and redemption.

07-26-2004, 03:44 AM	#8 (permalink)
M-CHammer Status: Newcomer Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 43 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: - Rep Power: 5	yes ..max blessed aim and vigor..those are synergys for blessed hammer and max conc because it increases your damage hardcore

07-26-2004, 03:44 AM	#9 (permalink)
defaultstring2 Status: Bloodthirsty Pimp Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: RI Posts: 1,810 Credits: 100 Spent time on board: 0:15:27 Hours Rep Power: 8	yep all are good skills to sink 1 pt into

07-26-2004, 03:47 AM	#11 (permalink)
defaultstring2 Status: Bloodthirsty Pimp Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: RI Posts: 1,810 Credits: 100 Spent time on board: 0:15:27 Hours Rep Power: 8	hammerdin , once you get good at using it, is better then a zelot for doing rushes, etc.... btw what is teh best weapon for a zelot? eth botd zerker axe?

07-26-2004, 03:54 AM	#12 (permalink)
Siluru Status: Hellgate: London Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Chicago, Illinois Posts: 1,499 Credits: 21 Spent time on board: 23:30:45 Hours Rep Power: 7	in PvP.. it all depends, any good Zealot vs a regular hammerdin can whipe the hammerdin out, but it all depends if the zealot can get in quick enough before the hammerdin has those hammers going, my pally CAN kill hammerdins, but 2-3 hits from those blessed hammers and im toast

07-26-2004, 03:55 AM	#13 (permalink)
jujubah07 Status: Newcomer Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 44 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: - Rep Power: 5	ahh i forgot to mention im more of a pvm/rusher/mf guy.. so does that help any.. also what merc is good for my pally? edit: and not to mention im kinda poor so yea

07-26-2004, 04:36 AM	#15 (permalink)
jujubah07 Status: Newcomer Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 44 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: - Rep Power: 5	ahh i forgot to mention im more of a pvm/rusher/mf guy.. so does that help any.. also what merc is good for my pally? edit: and not to mention im kinda poor so yea also will a hammerdin own hell pvm?

07-26-2004, 04:54 AM	#16 (permalink)
ken2520 Status: Pooned by a Spoon Join Date: May 2004 Location: Richmond, Bc, Posts: 771 Credits: 102 Spent time on board: 1:26:36 Hours Rep Power: 6	yes hammerdins own hell quite easyly if u have the rite gear... all depends... hammerdins r mostly made for pvm becaz of most players say they r too rigged in pvp... they own ppl too fast doing over 14 k with the rite gear... in pvm it needs to be well lved and well equiped or else he is gonna get owned in pvm real fast... edit: o ya forgot to mention that i think u r suppose to use a holy freeze guy i think im not quite sure but i think holy freeze would b the best choice...

07-26-2004, 05:26 AM	#17 (permalink)
Silver Ice Status: MS guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: abbotsford,BC Posts: 6,484 Credits: 30 Spent time on board: - Rep Power: 18	hammerdins own all but their kinda boring and lame just spamming hammers everywhere, wow exciting. zealots are fun but it all depends on if a zealot goes out, charges a hammerdin and can block lock him

07-26-2004, 07:59 AM	#18 (permalink)
dim_sum Status: Veteran Join Date: May 2004 Location: Vic, Australia Posts: 432 Credits: 100 Spent time on board: 0:05:45 Hours Rep Power: 5	Duelingwise, I'm confident zealer would win. Charge, Charge, Charge, Bang, Dead. The Hammerdin wouldn't be able to recover fast enough. And I'm talking the best of the best Paladins with perfect gear so definately Zealer.

07-27-2004, 01:24 AM	#19 (permalink)
defaultstring2 Status: Bloodthirsty Pimp Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: RI Posts: 1,810 Credits: 100 Spent time on board: 0:15:27 Hours Rep Power: 8	that would be a charger, not a zealot

07-27-2004, 02:09 AM	#20 (permalink)
Rob Status: Veteran Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 269 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: - Rep Power: 5	Hammerdins would rape all of hell PvM considering his resists were high and he used some moderate +'s to skill. SS, Que-Hegan, Seraph(or maras if you can afford..), shako, verd's, raven's, wizzy.. A hammerdin can solo hell with that gear, trust me, cuz' mine does it just fine. ^Ladder, of course.