Will

My smiter is lvl 82 with 2.5k life. Ive read posts with replies saying they have a smiter with 4k life O,o Im assuming they have life sc's, but my set up is perfect for the gear I have and an invo of +20 sc's would give 800 life. 800+2.5k= 3.3k life
I want a pvp set up but occasionally pvm. my gear is eth exile vortex, ap nigma, shako (COA=174str req which is moving me further from the 4k life mark) dgreaves, griefZ, vtorc, bhold, ravenfrost, dungo belt dracs with cta and lidless on switch.
-Please tell me what makes a good pvper smiter.
-How smiters achieve 4k life
-I know there have been alot of threads about shields (upped hoz or eth exile) but I need a final answer on which is better for pvp.

It'd be great if you could answer my problem

Loits

Ap eni lol, where did you get that idea from? Use a eni that you can equip with base strenght or dusk if you have ias/stat/resi gloves.

It's also recommended to use a cta6.

PoTatoes

what the hell is a vtorch? and with bo + scs + a decent amount of vit, hitting 4k isnt that hard...

Espada

i think what he meant was vtorc which is a amulet and for shield upped hoz gives you more dmg but if you like to life tap which is sometimes bm then go for exile but upped hoz is a much better option to me. Oh and for gloves use upped bloodfists instead.

Will

I meant ap coh u_u
Ok, so what kind of coh should I use, one with base str?
So a superior dusk shroud coh
And by vtorch I mean viper torc, a pally ammy, like a maras but with 19 str like 15 str res's. Alot better than a mara's.
What are upped bloodfists worth?
And what about my other questions, could you help with thema swell
Thanks


Additional Comment:
Also, COA or shako?
COA is good fhr dr all of that but shako has less req's, Im not sure which is the better option. + shako gives dr anyway +2 skills, all helpful

Loits

Use eni + coa, no decent smiter uses coh except for tristers.

Will

Why do I use enigma? O,o I have charge
(Reminder it is a smiter)
Could you pls tell me why use an enigma instead? I'd be happy if I have to use enigma cause that means the str bonus will be huuuge and I dont have to worry too much about str for other things.
-Plus I can use COA 2 soc
-+2 skills
-45% faster r/w
Ok I understand why now
COH is basically for pvm cause of the res bonus you receive from it.
Can you pls tell me what a 2 sckt COA is worth
And if I should use a mp enigma cause of the 55 str req.
What does a gg smiter use. Loits Im going to go by what you tell me. So COA, Enigma (Not sure what type) boots goreriders? gloves not sure dracs atm, vtorc ammy, bhold and raven rings? upped hoz or exile? And what in my invo? 20 life sc's or cb gc's?
Thanks heaps for helping btw loits

Loits

You need enigma so you can save points in str and add them to vita, also eni gives you a 5% life bonus.

Best gloves 20ias/dex/str/fresi/cresi/lresi.

These gloves should allow you to use dusk eni with minimal stats (torch+anni).

Use shadow dancers with 25 dex so you can save some more points.

I'm not so sure about the ias req but if you need ias then put a ias/ed jool in upped zaka. if you have enought ias use a 30ed/9str/9dex jool.

Dunno about vtorc and bhold since they don't exist on europe as far as i know.

Also smiters don't need pcombs, fill your inv with 20lifers/resi scs, with coa+dancers you have 60 fhr but you need 86 so get some 5fhr/resi scs to further stack.

max smite + fana, 1 in charge and put the rest of the points into passive resists to get max resi.

1 point in holy freeze for smite vs smite dools.

Use ravens.

K, kinda messed up guide.

And for god sake use ba grief cos it has range 4 vs 3 on pb.

sometimes 2 ravens is bm so you can use 20str/15dex/ar ring.

Will

Ok, but how many points do I put into passive resists?
Dont I have enough res's for hell anyway.

Btw theres a 136 str req for shadow dancers, your probably know, but just in case.

I might just sell everything off my zon and mainly focus on this smiter.

Can I get 20 life sc's for 3 max dmg 20 to a/r sc's?

What about gloves with 10ias/18 dex/31mana/fire, cold res/mf, theyre on my zon but I will give to smiter if they are good enough. Im going to trade off gmb faith, fortitude all basic stuff for my smiter.

Also, will I have to add to str if Im like 6 points off, I really dont want to.

Lol, one more question can I get a grief ba(cause you recommended) for a griefZ?
So Im obviously going to use up'd hoz instead of eth v exile, but no one has one =\, and do I have to get max block rate?

One more question, sorry for annoying you but can I get a grife ba for griefZ?

hellsing293

use dusk coh because you can glitch on. try for 20life, 2str scs or atleast 2str scs so no points go into it. oh, and maybe get a friend with a barb to bo you before you run. that's always an option lol.

also, use spirit on the switch for +1 more to bo.

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Will

But Ive been told to use enigma. That would be a huge str bonus and I need a pvp set up and coh doesnt have any pvp stats. If I dont use enigma I wont get the life, str r/w all those bonuses. + I wouldnt be able to use a COA. Why is a COH good for smiters?
And when they say 4k life with bo do they mean with barbs bo or bo from a cta?

And also can I get 20life/2str sc's for 3maxdmg/20to ar sc's?
OR how many runes/sojs do I need to get 36 20life/2str sc's?

Loits

coh is good for trist noobs.

get scs 20 life + resi max dam ones are pointless for a smiter.

work out your required ias:
http://diablo2.ingame.de/tips/calcs/...p?lang=english

griefZ = ba = berserker axe

make sure you hit 86 fhr with coa+dancers if you use dusk eni and you have str on gloves it should be np equipping dusk eni + dance

put 10 points in max fire resi and wear waterwalks against fire sosos, that way you'll have 85 resi, the rest i would put into max light resi.

if you use waterwalks you need 2 more scs. I would concentrate on getting as many 20life/11lresi and 20life/cresi scs as possible.

against cold sosos equip 1 raven + kiara with thul. use verdango

1 ring should be a 20str/15dex/other mods like mana/resi ring then you can equip dancers np.

if you nn the ias in zaka and you have a shitty verdango + coa then ber it.

4k life should be very doable with pretty much all vita build. you have base dex + 20 from raven + 25 from dancers + 40 anni and torch +15 from ring giving you a +100 dex bonus possibly. I think you only need about 120 dex to get max block so very few points in dex none in str and the rest in vita.

btw what stats do those duped items that you have, have?

Edit: for gods sake don't lisen to noobs who suggest str glitching, wost idea ever in pvp and you can end up losing your zaka if you are picking up your corpse and you get nked after you take the first bit up.

Will

Ok cool, so wpn I already have, I'll use vtorc cause it has like 15str/19dex res's +2 to skills all awesome stats. Helm I'll use 2 soc COA, ill just by a unid off a site for like $5 not much anyway, no one has 20 to life sc's/mods on d2 I sware, I might just buy, its way too hard to trade for. With the dex gear you recommended I'll have 125 dex plus whatever the ammy gives, so that might be base aswell as the str
Also, dont call me a noob u_u but whats the physical difference between an upped hoz and a normal hoz, like how can I tell a HoZ is upped?

Loits

Upped hoz does much more damage but it's not show anywhere. The way you can tell is that a upped hoz has much higher requirements and defence.

you can trade here

http://forums.d2jsp.org/

Daddy_XL

Why does a smiter use a Grief?? I mean if your going to have an exile use dracs and all u might as well have a LW. And i would say Life tap is Bm but if your going to ko someone in 2 hits or less i dont think thats a valueable point of saying its Bm. Take a 1500+def Exile for example.. that would be like what...? 3k+ smite dmg.. well add ITD with any combination of wep that gives it and Bam.. They die in 1-2 hits.

Loits

stfu and slit asap.

Will

LMFAO, haha
Ok thanks alot for the link man
Currentelly looking for ds nigma and 20 life/lres,fres,cresi

Loits

Np, you don't need that much fire resi just make sure you have about 25 stacked so that you won't go below 75 resi when anya bug kicks in. Fire sosos in general should not use -resi items if they know what is good for them so i wouldn't bother stacking fire resi a lot.

Daddy_XL

Hmm im more or less asking seriously and trying to point out somethingto maybe help him do better. Nice flaming there. We get it your the uber character builder for D2. Cool man... w/e.. Im glad your proud n all.. But seriously that's like being the smartest kid with down syndrome.

Loits

Fine, i'll give you a serious answer:

Why does a smiter use a Grief?
For smite it's important to have +damage on the weapon and +%ed on the rest of the eq. Grief is by far the weapon that has the most +damage, there are some uniques aswell but the damage is low around +10 and so on.

I mean if your going to have an exile use dracs and all u might as well have a LW.
Exile +draculs will help you lame around in pubs but they will not increase your overall duelling skill, also it's possible to do much more damage with hoz and the defence aura is not that useful. http://www.ep-pvp.net/info/General.php refer to that link to calculate a barbarians chances of hit between 20k defence and 30k defence that is extra from exile. Exile also has a much worse % of block therefore you would have to add more points in dex.

And i would say Life tap is Bm but if your going to ko someone in 2 hits or less i dont think thats a valueable point of saying its Bm.
Killing someone in 2 hits means that they have a shit char therefore they should delete and remake or they are too noob/poor for pvp.

Take a 1500+def Exile for example.. that would be like what...? 3k+ smite dmg.. well add ITD with any combination of wep that gives it and Bam.. They die in 1-2 hits.
The damage that is show on your char screen is excluding the +damage from grief, in reality smiters do around 6k damage. There is also something called the pvp penalty reducing your damage to 1/6 therefore nerfing your damage bigtime.

The argument of using lw+exile+draculs is very bad because you do so little damage that even if you life tap a barb he can easily whirlwind throught you and rape you because the life gained depends on damage done. Lw will add no damage what so ever to your shield because on weaon +ed% is neglected.