Whats the Best? Posion? Bone? Summen?

**Mr Mellow** · 11-06-2005, 06:31 AM

I cant figure out what build i want for my Necro, but i do know what i want it for PURE PvM i know there are alot of builds out there i just need to know what is the best necro? Posion? Bone? Summen? I JUST DONT KNOW

.... any way please PoSt all your repliese and dont forget to Vote. Post all Gear/Stats/Skills and of what you think is the best necro for PvM. Vote or Die

**snoboy** · 11-07-2005, 01:55 AM

to vote u need a poll and imo summon necro is better than bone or poison in pvm, summon necros are VERY good pvmers if u got a good one u shouldnt die , if u do its rarely becuase of freaking monsters aa

**Mr Mellow** · 11-07-2005, 02:23 AM

Omg your right i forgot to add the POLL DAM!!!! Thanks i was in a big hurry (SORRY TO ALL) my bad lol...

**snoboy** · 11-07-2005, 02:25 AM

but seriously poison= not pvm becuase ther r os many poison immunes, bone is pretty good but takes soem getting used to and summoner r ez even without enigma u jsut sit there and watch em kill everything

**Mr Mellow** · 11-07-2005, 02:37 AM

So if i wanted a Hybrid Necro with Bone Skels and curses what would i use

?

**snoboy** · 11-07-2005, 02:45 AM

well u wouldnt really hybrid wiht curses u woudl jsut be liek bonespear,teeth,spirit,boenwall,prison 1 into amp for extra dmg 1 into clay golem for a little tank for a few secs :P bone necro r good pvm jsut take alot longer than summon necro imo

**dkim** · 11-07-2005, 03:18 AM

ima summoner and i can solo all of hell difficulty and ubers.

**Mr Mellow** · 11-07-2005, 04:51 AM

Hay Dkim can you tell me your build for your Necro? Skills/Stats/Gear? ~PLZ~&~THX~

**A|fzZz** · 11-09-2005, 06:46 AM

Summoner
0 str
0dex
all vit
0energy

I'd prefer summoner over other necs for pvm.

**FraterPerdurabo** · 11-09-2005, 08:14 AM

Nah, screw bone for PvM. I'd either go with a Summoner if You're Über rich and can afford the best items, other than that I'd go for a Poison Necro.

This is just a simple guide to a decent Poison Necro. It needs a lot of souping up since I haven't tweaked with it for a while.

PnB tree
20 Poison Dagger
20 Poison Explosion
20 Poison Nova
1 Teeth (prerequisite)
1+ Corpse Explosion
1+ Bone Armor

Curse tree
1 Amplify Damage
1 Iron Maiden (useful to have occasionally)
1 Decrepify (not necessary, but extremrly useful when doing bosses, requires 2 skill point prerequisites)

Summoning tree
20 Skeleton Mastery
3+ Raise Skeleton
3+ Raise Skeleton Mage
3 Revive
1 Clay Golem (prerequisite)
1 Blood Golem (prerequisite)
1 Iron Golem (some people prefer this over the Fire Golem. Only use this if You find enough decent equipment from which to raise it. e.g. IK Maul, 40%CB, Iron Golem is the ultimate Bosskiller minion)
1 Fire Golem (even if You use Iron Golem, this is a simple synergy bonus)
1 Golem Mastery
1 Summon Resist

As You may see, this really is a hybrid Necromancer fit to take anything down. The emphasis is still on the Poison though, the army just provides the meatwall. The advantages over a pure Summoner is that You can actually make Your own corpses, so raising a meatwall army is MUCH easier. If You have more skill points left, I suggest any of the skills with a + behind them.

Equipment:
Helmet: Shako (Um if You desperately need resists [resists aren't all that important on this build], poison facet otherwise)
Armor: Bramble (Awesome poison damage, +Thorns for Your minions)
You don't need Enigma for this build.
Amulet: Mara's
Ring: SoJs
Belt: Arach
Boots: Marrowwalks
Gloves: Trang's
Shield: Homonculus

If You cannot afford this setup, full Trang's is also fine, but You'll lose a lot of killing speed. FCR is unnecessary with this build. Why? Have You ever seen those retarded necros spamming Poison Nova? Well, if spammed, it's not as effective. Cast, wait 2 seconds, cast again. You'll get the hang of it easily. If You encounter poison immunes, just cast Amplify Damage, wait for Your skellies to take one enemy out, and the *boom* spam Corpse Explosion. Once when I was in Hell mid-lvl-70, I spammed an entire room in Tal Rasha's Tomb with Amplify Damage and corpse explosion. I got about half a bar of experience, for about 10 seconds of work.

Oh yeah, and stats are self explanitory:
STR: enough for eq
DEX: none really. If You want max block with the Homonculus (best necro blocking shield), You may put a few points here, but if You are getting hit with this build, then You're doing something wrong.
VIT: rest
ENE: none

**Bloodangel26** · 11-09-2005, 01:55 PM

funny that the guy who's builds are so awesome and perfect is yet again asking for help.....

i'm currently working on a hybrid summon/bone necro. if its any good i'll let you know. if not, oh well i'll remake and get another hell forge

hmm...coming up with your own builds...what a concept, you should try it sometime

**Mr Mellow** · 11-10-2005, 05:03 AM

OMG you are pixel freak lol Ok want to know the builds i dont use? I dont use Necros, Barbs, Amazons and not alot of druids. Now can you get a life and just SHUT UP. Freaking A Pixel freak

**A|fzZz** · 11-10-2005, 07:06 AM

hmm...U only use sin n sorc n pally?

**Bloodangel26** · 11-10-2005, 11:32 AM

what the heck is a pixel freak? and fine if your going to be that way i wont help you anymore. if anyone else besides marshmellow wants to know how my new idea for a necro does let me know

and i'd seriously reconsider telling someone else to get a life when you brag about how great you are at an online game...

**Mr Mellow** · 11-10-2005, 11:23 PM

Yes i only use sin pally and sorc, but latly i have goten to some thinking and was going to use the other people. Oh and sorry A|fzZz and i like your Tranquility pic it looks nice. Oh and im done talking to you Bloodangel26. Mod if you would please close this thread he keeps following me in all the other threads im in or start.

**Bloodangel26** · 11-11-2005, 01:09 AM

i'm not following you, i'm trying to HELP YOU AND ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS...your just being an idiot about it

**Mr Mellow** · 11-11-2005, 02:21 AM

Bro just leave me alone. And thank you for trying to help.

**A|fzZz** · 11-11-2005, 04:54 AM

~closed . [Author's request]
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11-10-2005, 11:32 AM	#14 (permalink)
Bloodangel26 Status: I am Legend. Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,279 Credits: 84 Spent time on board: 23:28:53 Hours Rep Power: 15	what the heck is a pixel freak? and fine if your going to be that way i wont help you anymore. if anyone else besides marshmellow wants to know how my new idea for a necro does let me know and i'd seriously reconsider telling someone else to get a life when you brag about how great you are at an online game... Last edited by Bloodangel26; 11-10-2005 at 11:33 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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11-06-2005, 06:31 AM	#1 (permalink)
Mr Mellow Status: Veteran Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Shady Cove, Oregon//US Posts: 168 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: 2:40:26 Hours Rep Power: 3	I cant figure out what build i want for my Necro, but i do know what i want it for PURE PvM i know there are alot of builds out there i just need to know what is the best necro? Posion? Bone? Summen? I JUST DONT KNOW .... any way please PoSt all your repliese and dont forget to Vote. Post all Gear/Stats/Skills and of what you think is the best necro for PvM. Vote or Die

11-07-2005, 01:55 AM	#2 (permalink)
snoboy Status: Veteran Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 461 Credits: 100 Spent time on board: - Rep Power: 4	to vote u need a poll and imo summon necro is better than bone or poison in pvm, summon necros are VERY good pvmers if u got a good one u shouldnt die , if u do its rarely becuase of freaking monsters aa

11-07-2005, 02:23 AM	#3 (permalink)
Mr Mellow Status: Veteran Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Shady Cove, Oregon//US Posts: 168 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: 2:40:26 Hours Rep Power: 3	Omg your right i forgot to add the POLL DAM!!!! Thanks i was in a big hurry (SORRY TO ALL) my bad lol...

11-07-2005, 02:25 AM	#4 (permalink)
snoboy Status: Veteran Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 461 Credits: 100 Spent time on board: - Rep Power: 4	but seriously poison= not pvm becuase ther r os many poison immunes, bone is pretty good but takes soem getting used to and summoner r ez even without enigma u jsut sit there and watch em kill everything

11-07-2005, 02:37 AM	#5 (permalink)
Mr Mellow Status: Veteran Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Shady Cove, Oregon//US Posts: 168 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: 2:40:26 Hours Rep Power: 3	So if i wanted a Hybrid Necro with Bone Skels and curses what would i use ?

11-07-2005, 02:45 AM	#6 (permalink)
snoboy Status: Veteran Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 461 Credits: 100 Spent time on board: - Rep Power: 4	well u wouldnt really hybrid wiht curses u woudl jsut be liek bonespear,teeth,spirit,boenwall,prison 1 into amp for extra dmg 1 into clay golem for a little tank for a few secs :P bone necro r good pvm jsut take alot longer than summon necro imo

11-07-2005, 03:18 AM	#7 (permalink)
dkim Status: Veteran Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: wisconsin Posts: 427 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: - Rep Power: 4	ima summoner and i can solo all of hell difficulty and ubers.

11-07-2005, 04:51 AM	#8 (permalink)
Mr Mellow Status: Veteran Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Shady Cove, Oregon//US Posts: 168 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: 2:40:26 Hours Rep Power: 3	Hay Dkim can you tell me your build for your Necro? Skills/Stats/Gear? ~PLZ~&~THX~

11-09-2005, 06:46 AM	#9 (permalink)
A\|fzZz Status: Retired S.Mod Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,900 Credits: 28 Spent time on board: 20:04:39 Hours Rep Power: 20	Summoner 0 str 0dex all vit 0energy I'd prefer summoner over other necs for pvm.

11-09-2005, 08:14 AM	#10 (permalink)
FraterPerdurabo Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: London Posts: 3,808 Credits: 180 Spent time on board: 2 Days and 5:58:03 Hours Rep Power: 12	Nah, screw bone for PvM. I'd either go with a Summoner if You're Über rich and can afford the best items, other than that I'd go for a Poison Necro. This is just a simple guide to a decent Poison Necro. It needs a lot of souping up since I haven't tweaked with it for a while. PnB tree 20 Poison Dagger 20 Poison Explosion 20 Poison Nova 1 Teeth (prerequisite) 1+ Corpse Explosion 1+ Bone Armor Curse tree 1 Amplify Damage 1 Iron Maiden (useful to have occasionally) 1 Decrepify (not necessary, but extremrly useful when doing bosses, requires 2 skill point prerequisites) Summoning tree 20 Skeleton Mastery 3+ Raise Skeleton 3+ Raise Skeleton Mage 3 Revive 1 Clay Golem (prerequisite) 1 Blood Golem (prerequisite) 1 Iron Golem (some people prefer this over the Fire Golem. Only use this if You find enough decent equipment from which to raise it. e.g. IK Maul, 40%CB, Iron Golem is the ultimate Bosskiller minion) 1 Fire Golem (even if You use Iron Golem, this is a simple synergy bonus) 1 Golem Mastery 1 Summon Resist As You may see, this really is a hybrid Necromancer fit to take anything down. The emphasis is still on the Poison though, the army just provides the meatwall. The advantages over a pure Summoner is that You can actually make Your own corpses, so raising a meatwall army is MUCH easier. If You have more skill points left, I suggest any of the skills with a + behind them. Equipment: Helmet: Shako (Um if You desperately need resists [resists aren't all that important on this build], poison facet otherwise) Armor: Bramble (Awesome poison damage, +Thorns for Your minions) You don't need Enigma for this build. Amulet: Mara's Ring: SoJs Belt: Arach Boots: Marrowwalks Gloves: Trang's Shield: Homonculus If You cannot afford this setup, full Trang's is also fine, but You'll lose a lot of killing speed. FCR is unnecessary with this build. Why? Have You ever seen those retarded necros spamming Poison Nova? Well, if spammed, it's not as effective. Cast, wait 2 seconds, cast again. You'll get the hang of it easily. If You encounter poison immunes, just cast Amplify Damage, wait for Your skellies to take one enemy out, and the boom spam Corpse Explosion. Once when I was in Hell mid-lvl-70, I spammed an entire room in Tal Rasha's Tomb with Amplify Damage and corpse explosion. I got about half a bar of experience, for about 10 seconds of work. Oh yeah, and stats are self explanitory: STR: enough for eq DEX: none really. If You want max block with the Homonculus (best necro blocking shield), You may put a few points here, but if You are getting hit with this build, then You're doing something wrong. VIT: rest ENE: none

11-09-2005, 01:55 PM	#11 (permalink)
Bloodangel26 Status: I am Legend. Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,279 Credits: 84 Spent time on board: 23:28:53 Hours Rep Power: 15	funny that the guy who's builds are so awesome and perfect is yet again asking for help..... i'm currently working on a hybrid summon/bone necro. if its any good i'll let you know. if not, oh well i'll remake and get another hell forge hmm...coming up with your own builds...what a concept, you should try it sometime

11-10-2005, 05:03 AM	#12 (permalink)
Mr Mellow Status: Veteran Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Shady Cove, Oregon//US Posts: 168 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: 2:40:26 Hours Rep Power: 3	OMG you are pixel freak lol Ok want to know the builds i dont use? I dont use Necros, Barbs, Amazons and not alot of druids. Now can you get a life and just SHUT UP. Freaking A Pixel freak

11-10-2005, 07:06 AM	#13 (permalink)
A\|fzZz Status: Retired S.Mod Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,900 Credits: 28 Spent time on board: 20:04:39 Hours Rep Power: 20	hmm...U only use sin n sorc n pally?

11-10-2005, 11:23 PM	#15 (permalink)
Mr Mellow Status: Veteran Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Shady Cove, Oregon//US Posts: 168 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: 2:40:26 Hours Rep Power: 3	Yes i only use sin pally and sorc, but latly i have goten to some thinking and was going to use the other people. Oh and sorry A\|fzZz and i like your Tranquility pic it looks nice. Oh and im done talking to you Bloodangel26. Mod if you would please close this thread he keeps following me in all the other threads im in or start.

11-11-2005, 01:09 AM	#16 (permalink)
Bloodangel26 Status: I am Legend. Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,279 Credits: 84 Spent time on board: 23:28:53 Hours Rep Power: 15	i'm not following you, i'm trying to HELP YOU AND ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS...your just being an idiot about it

11-11-2005, 02:21 AM	#17 (permalink)
Mr Mellow Status: Veteran Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Shady Cove, Oregon//US Posts: 168 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: 2:40:26 Hours Rep Power: 3	Bro just leave me alone. And thank you for trying to help.

11-11-2005, 04:54 AM	#18 (permalink)
A\|fzZz Status: Retired S.Mod Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,900 Credits: 28 Spent time on board: 20:04:39 Hours Rep Power: 20	~closed . [Author's request] `