warning about mmbot - Page 2

**Doono** · 08-23-2005, 11:20 AM

warden cant scan for that bot, it can only find dll's injected illegaly into the d2 process which it dosent. It uses pixels, its an auto it script unless warden starts scanning outside the d2 folder and memory which as far as i know is illegal its undetectable.

**skidude** · 08-23-2005, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dynafrom

O m G I GOT BANNED

Not, anyways... seems that easymap will get you banned, im not going to use that for a while now ^^

PWNED HAHA I KNEW U WOULD BE mh and bot can get u banned even d2loader can :

**Guju-** · 08-23-2005, 02:00 PM

Ski did you fix that problem with teleing after tp? If yes plz send me your sequence!

I told you dyna

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cauhtemoc

With all due respect, you probably got banned for some other reason, or Warden made a mistake, which has also been reported to happen.

Yea the other reason = easy map :

**DaRK_IMMoRTAL** · 08-23-2005, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skidude

PWNED HAHA I KNEW U WOULD BE mh and bot can get u banned even d2loader can :

wait d2loader safe? b/c i swear it took one of my cd-keys unless it was easymap. -_- lol i only got 1 left now.... can't xfer self T.T

Quote:

Originally Posted by skidude

PWNED HAHA I KNEW U WOULD BE mh and bot can get u banned even d2loader can :

wait d2loader safe? b/c i swear it took one of my cd-keys unless it was easymap. -_- lol i only got 1 left now.... can't xfer self T.T
i really just wanna know.. from what everyone thinks..

**skidude** · 08-23-2005, 10:48 PM

yea man any 3rd party program can get your account and cdkey banned anything u add on that don't come with game can get u banned inless its on open bnet where u can hack and stuff

**OOTF** · 08-23-2005, 11:00 PM

guys.... to broaden the light already placed on this subject.. as.. some1.. said before.. the only way that warden can detect you hacking is through .dlls or other executables being injected or attacking the running d2 process... usually Storm32.dll.. that is the ONLY way that Blizz can scan for hacks.. that is the only file that is used by every hack there is out there... now loader is questionable.. because.. although your not attacking the Storm dll.. you are knocking about 3kb off of the size of the Diablo 2 executable.. so they might be able to detect that... but it would mean that Warden is far more powerfull than we think... onto the bot... as stated before.. many times... MMbot Does NOT work off of injected Dlls or any other such "hack".. in all reality... imagine in you sat down and recorded you moving your char in the game and then just re-ran that script every time you did a run... that is essentially what MMBot and it is 100% undetectable... the only way that you can get banned from using MMBot is because you are trying to do to many runs.. to quickly.. and that will be the only way that you can ever get banned using MMbot.... now if blizz was smart... they would take the Bot sequence and if you ever ran 2 or 3 games within the same realm of the values of the bot's sequence then you got booted.. but Hey.. blizz isnt that smart.. and legally they cannot ban you or disable your cd key because of a script.. as long as the program you are running isnt malicious to Storm dll then there really isnt that much that blizz can do to you..

**manus-magnus** · 08-24-2005, 02:14 AM

btw i need to make a my mod corruption utility asap.

**Siris** · 08-24-2005, 02:30 AM

and what if blizz is all smarter then we think? i mean cmon they have basiclly ignored d2 for a long *** time its all about WoW on there main site

but not that a new patch is here and ladder reset the staff of blizz is paying a 'little' more attention then b4 that could be how u all r getting banned and ot only that they are learning of all the new wways that ppl are hacking into d2

**[The Reaper]** · 08-24-2005, 02:42 AM

so can loader get you banned? I have a legit cd, so i don't want to get banned for nothing.

**Siris** · 08-24-2005, 02:54 AM

think of it like this..... u can get banned for using potentially every single hack, mod, etc.

as long as u have left d2 and dont use anything besides d2 then u are a 100% safe

Envy-One · 08-24-2005, 05:10 AM

I think i will wait for d2jsp and mousepad to come out... i think skidude has tought us all a lesson today " if you decided to listen" that only trusted 3rd party software is what we should gamble our cd keys with... sorry for your loss skidude and thanks for the warning

**Siris** · 08-24-2005, 05:31 AM

ok the warning, which i believe is just plain common sense, has been everywhere

resu · 08-24-2005, 07:20 AM

I don't know if warden can or not, but in theory it is possible to identify mm.BOT by checking the parent processes of game.exe and diablo ii.exe.

Just a thought for everyone claiming it to be 100% safe given that it does not attach itself to the D2 processes (even magnus didn't claim it was 100% safe).

But I do agree AutoIt is going to be very hard to detect.

**Siris** · 08-24-2005, 07:22 AM

nothing is 100% unless u have just straight ole d2

resu · 08-24-2005, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Siris

nothing is 100% unless u have just straight ole d2

I think you're missing my point. Nothing is 100% safe, that is a moot point.

What I'm alluding to (and I thought it was clear the first time) is another possible reason why it may not be safe. Perhaps someone who actually knows more about warden's abilities can make a more informed assessment.

I'm not saying "use mm.BOT it's safe" nor am I saying "do not use mm.BOT it's not safe"

**Siris** · 08-24-2005, 07:53 AM

sry and its true im not sure of wardens full capabilities so maybe i shoud just be quiet

Mould · 08-24-2005, 08:28 AM

Yeah, I got banned by using mmBot last night.

**Siris** · 08-24-2005, 08:36 AM

ummm was it the only thing u were usin?

Mould · 08-24-2005, 08:50 AM

Yes...... Oh and d2loader.

**Siris** · 08-24-2005, 08:56 AM

d2 loader can get u banned maybe that was it but far more likely it was the mh

08-24-2005, 02:30 AM	#28 (permalink)
Siris Status: LCpl of Marines Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Where ever I am ordered. Posts: 1,782 Credits: 10 Spent time on board: 21:36:00 Hours Rep Power: 7	and what if blizz is all smarter then we think? i mean cmon they have basiclly ignored d2 for a long *** time its all about WoW on there main site but not that a new patch is here and ladder reset the staff of blizz is paying a 'little' more attention then b4 that could be how u all r getting banned and ot only that they are learning of all the new wways that ppl are hacking into d2 __________________ Live, Learn, then STFU. I am Jack's smirking revenge.

08-24-2005, 02:54 AM	#30 (permalink)
Siris Status: LCpl of Marines Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Where ever I am ordered. Posts: 1,782 Credits: 10 Spent time on board: 21:36:00 Hours Rep Power: 7	think of it like this..... u can get banned for using potentially every single hack, mod, etc. as long as u have left d2 and dont use anything besides d2 then u are a 100% safe __________________ Live, Learn, then STFU. I am Jack's smirking revenge.

08-24-2005, 05:31 AM	#32 (permalink)
Siris Status: LCpl of Marines Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Where ever I am ordered. Posts: 1,782 Credits: 10 Spent time on board: 21:36:00 Hours Rep Power: 7	ok the warning, which i believe is just plain common sense, has been everywhere __________________ Live, Learn, then STFU. I am Jack's smirking revenge.

08-24-2005, 07:22 AM	#34 (permalink)
Siris Status: LCpl of Marines Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Where ever I am ordered. Posts: 1,782 Credits: 10 Spent time on board: 21:36:00 Hours Rep Power: 7	nothing is 100% unless u have just straight ole d2 __________________ Live, Learn, then STFU. I am Jack's smirking revenge.

08-24-2005, 07:53 AM	#36 (permalink)
Siris Status: LCpl of Marines Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Where ever I am ordered. Posts: 1,782 Credits: 10 Spent time on board: 21:36:00 Hours Rep Power: 7	sry and its true im not sure of wardens full capabilities so maybe i shoud just be quiet __________________ Live, Learn, then STFU. I am Jack's smirking revenge.

08-23-2005, 11:20 AM	#21 (permalink)
Doono Status: Veteran Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 209 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: - Rep Power: 4	warden cant scan for that bot, it can only find dll's injected illegaly into the d2 process which it dosent. It uses pixels, its an auto it script unless warden starts scanning outside the d2 folder and memory which as far as i know is illegal its undetectable.

08-23-2005, 10:48 PM	#25 (permalink)
skidude Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: greece Posts: 4,652 Credits: 266 Spent time on board: 6 Days and 5:25:54 Hours Rep Power: 14	yea man any 3rd party program can get your account and cdkey banned anything u add on that don't come with game can get u banned inless its on open bnet where u can hack and stuff

08-23-2005, 11:00 PM	#26 (permalink)
OOTF Status: Veteran Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Rapid City, South Dakota Posts: 183 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: - Rep Power: 5	guys.... to broaden the light already placed on this subject.. as.. some1.. said before.. the only way that warden can detect you hacking is through .dlls or other executables being injected or attacking the running d2 process... usually Storm32.dll.. that is the ONLY way that Blizz can scan for hacks.. that is the only file that is used by every hack there is out there... now loader is questionable.. because.. although your not attacking the Storm dll.. you are knocking about 3kb off of the size of the Diablo 2 executable.. so they might be able to detect that... but it would mean that Warden is far more powerfull than we think... onto the bot... as stated before.. many times... MMbot Does NOT work off of injected Dlls or any other such "hack".. in all reality... imagine in you sat down and recorded you moving your char in the game and then just re-ran that script every time you did a run... that is essentially what MMBot and it is 100% undetectable... the only way that you can get banned from using MMBot is because you are trying to do to many runs.. to quickly.. and that will be the only way that you can ever get banned using MMbot.... now if blizz was smart... they would take the Bot sequence and if you ever ran 2 or 3 games within the same realm of the values of the bot's sequence then you got booted.. but Hey.. blizz isnt that smart.. and legally they cannot ban you or disable your cd key because of a script.. as long as the program you are running isnt malicious to Storm dll then there really isnt that much that blizz can do to you..

08-24-2005, 02:14 AM	#27 (permalink)
manus-magnus Status: Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: france Posts: 68 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: - Rep Power: 4	btw i need to make a my mod corruption utility asap.

08-24-2005, 02:42 AM	#29 (permalink)
[The Reaper] Status: Don't Fear the Reaper... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: PA Posts: 1,416 Credits: 4 Spent time on board: 0:56:29 Hours Rep Power: 6	so can loader get you banned? I have a legit cd, so i don't want to get banned for nothing.

08-24-2005, 05:10 AM	#31 (permalink)
Envy-One Status: Newcomer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bustown, Ohio Posts: 2 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: - Rep Power: 0	I think i will wait for d2jsp and mousepad to come out... i think skidude has tought us all a lesson today " if you decided to listen" that only trusted 3rd party software is what we should gamble our cd keys with... sorry for your loss skidude and thanks for the warning

08-24-2005, 07:20 AM	#33 (permalink)
resu Status: Newcomer Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 5 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: - Rep Power: 0	I don't know if warden can or not, but in theory it is possible to identify mm.BOT by checking the parent processes of game.exe and diablo ii.exe. Just a thought for everyone claiming it to be 100% safe given that it does not attach itself to the D2 processes (even magnus didn't claim it was 100% safe). But I do agree AutoIt is going to be very hard to detect.

08-24-2005, 08:28 AM	#37 (permalink)
Mould Status: Newcomer Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 6 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: - Rep Power: 0	Yeah, I got banned by using mmBot last night.

08-24-2005, 08:36 AM	#38 (permalink)
Siris Status: LCpl of Marines Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Where ever I am ordered. Posts: 1,782 Credits: 10 Spent time on board: 21:36:00 Hours Rep Power: 7	ummm was it the only thing u were usin? __________________ Live, Learn, then STFU. I am Jack's smirking revenge.

08-24-2005, 08:50 AM	#39 (permalink)
Mould Status: Newcomer Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 6 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: - Rep Power: 0	Yes...... Oh and d2loader.

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08-24-2005, 08:56 AM	#40 (permalink)
Siris Status: LCpl of Marines Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Where ever I am ordered. Posts: 1,782 Credits: 10 Spent time on board: 21:36:00 Hours Rep Power: 7	d2 loader can get u banned maybe that was it but far more likely it was the mh __________________ Live, Learn, then STFU. I am Jack's smirking revenge.