can they still do good even though i dont got any ele gc's? and wut would do more damage ravenlore or a Pnw?

Yeah, my friend doesn't have any GC's and he owns me sometimes I'd say the PNw does more dmg with the +2(maybe 1?) skills and cold dmg.

kk thanx 4 the help

Without gcs...I dont even think u stand a huge chance in pubbies , lets not say priv.

With gcs roughly 6k nado.

6/6=1k [pvp penalty]
1k/2=500 dmg only...[dr]
Not too mention people out there are richer everyday...2-3k life for casters...no problem....So u might need help of gcs.

Don't use Ravenlore. I don't know what Pwn is...

My wind druid uses a 2/20 Circlet. Ravenlore has no fcr, so it's pointless... What You should be aiming for eventually is a Druid Delitium, but these cost heaps. Basically, make the Delirium runeword in a Druid helmet that at base has +2 to Elemental Skills and +3 to Tornado. With the +2 to all skills from the runeword, You'll get a whooping +7 to Tornado and +5 to Hurricane and Cyclone armor from the helmet alone. No fcr though, but with that damage it won't really matter. I just bought 2 more elemgcs yesterday, haveing a total of 7 now, and I can really feel the difference. My Tornado now does 6k damage.

ok well im in the process of makin 1 now and im seeing wut u guyz are talking about. the damage sux, i dont got a torch nor ele gc's. but when i borred my friends ele gc's (9) the damage went up more than i thoght. so ya these guyz are pointless if you dont plan on using gc's. so ty all 4 ur contiribution.

PNW (Perf nw) is pointless b/c the +cold skills is sorc only. I'd prefer Jalas Cold Facet or Shako Cold Facet

no i checked it works 4 druids 2