like i've been doing A LOT of mf'ing @ hell meph with 450% mf and i can't seem to find anything at all, i've done over like 150 runs in one day, not single shako, occy or w/e, i was wondeirng if anybody could tell me that whether i need more or less mf (because i tried mfing with less and i got better stuff) and what hell meph can and can't drop, thanks!!!

meph is unaffected by mf.......

in like...1.10 they made it so end bosses are unaffected by mf.....so yeah.

The Arreat Summit - Items: Magic Find

"will magic find work on bosses"
"yes"

or has this not been updated?

i swear i read that today...i am sorry if i gave out false information...i am quite trashed right now, roommate came over with a handle of vodka...but i swear i read that in multiple places today. However i can't find them right now so you might be right. Sorry about this again.

More or less? I'm not really sure. I'm guessing more. If you don't have mmBot already I suggest you get it.

try 300% mf. i usually find goodies with that amount. well actually i have 298.

While doing Meph, also try Pindle, Eldrich and Shenk, they are pretty quick, easy and have decent drops. I have good luck there anyway.

Hope it gets better for you.

It could just be me but I think MFing gets worse if you have over 400%. I would try to drop down to 350% or so if I was you.

I am a noob, what is mmBot ?

Not too much and not too little.

Like the one above said, stick with 200-300... you'll find some some day.

Meph is my main man. I have ALWAYS counted on him to drop Shakos, Occy, Hoz, Arachnid. I have a total this season alone of probably 5 Shakos, 3 Occy, 3 Hoz, and an Arachnid. Just keep doing him like how you are mfing right now, and you will get drops from him. Meph, Pindle, Eldritch, Shenk.

I'll second the recommendation for ~300% MF.
For some obscure (and unconfirmed) reason, having a MF above ~300% is bad and makes you find less than expected.
I've read a pseudo technical explanation about it over a year ago, but as usual when you want to post links you can't find them again... I'm sorry =/

Ciao ciao : )

The items I have listed was found with more than 300% mf by alot.

Agreed.. I got around 235% and i get at least hoz, spider and shako a day..

Most times alot more than that..

I use hammerdin with 13k

...

I don't believe you get at LEAST Hoz Spider and Shako a day....

Once a week if you bot for 3 hrs a day maybe.

wrong I used to bot with exactly 230 mf last season
I would get at LEAST a hoz and 2 shakos every time, arach once every other day.

Oh wow. Which bosses do you run when you do that?

So! If I say something you don't believe it.
But if someone else says it, you believe it.
How rude! Next time I'll keep my mouth shut
>_<

Ciao ciao : )

Ya kinda funny how ppl don't believe you unless you a mod or got funny colors added to your name..

But don't care what ppl think, cause I know whats true..

And one more last of advice, "I do meph runs"..

LoL, now you wanna know.. lol

It's okay if you don't think I'm telling the truth..

I do about 75-125 runs a day.. I get about 1-3 spiders.. 2-5 shakos.. and maybe 1 hoz.. And few other things.. Facets, rings, etc..

Oh ya yesterday I got a griff.. Which I have not id'ed yet..

The more MF = the better, unless you are sacrificing too much killing power.

I used to do Meph with ~600% MF and got a sweet amount of drops from him.

People saying that you get less with more MF is bullshit, Magic Find % is simply subject to diminishing returns. For example, at 400%+ you will need a lot more +% to get a better MF% chance. This sounds complicated, so I'll try to explain it again.

Using random numbers, the odds are something like, at 600% MF you have
600% better chance of finding a blue item.
500% better chance of finding a rare item.
400% better chance of finding a set item.
300% better chance of finding a unique item.

So simply put, you will always need more MF% to find those unique items.