I'm right. You know this, I know this. We all knew this when the US Government, under cooperation with Israeli interests, bombed the WTC and essentially started a 50 year genocide of the Arab people.

If we vote Obama, the 7 long years of the downward spiral we're in will start to straighten out. It'll still be a downward fall but we will no longer be spinning. Ahh who am I kidding. It's all fixed anyway. McCain will win.

If you're going to vote for McCain, at least hold off judgment until you see who he chooses for VP. That old ****er will just die of combined massive stroke and heart failure the moment Fox News announces him the next President. Or you could vote for Bobb Bar, LOL.

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There's an electric car that goes 250 or so miles before recharge, and it does 0-60 in 3.9 I believe. And then the 150 mpg sports looking hybrid that I saw.

Ah found the electric one. Tesla Roadster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia my stepdad's boss drives one.

I've seen that car but right now, from what I understand, it's rediculously expensive. He's trying to bring out new technology that everyone can afford.

[QUOTEBlindMansTicket]I'm right. You know this, I know this. We all knew this when the US Government, under cooperation with Israeli interests, bombed the WTC and essentially started a 50 year genocide of the Arab people.

If we vote Obama, the 7 long years of the downward spiral we're in will start to straighten out. It'll still be a downward fall but we will no longer be spinning. Ahh who am I kidding. It's all fixed anyway. McCain will win.

If you're going to vote for McCain, at least hold off judgment until you see who he chooses for VP. That old ****er will just die of combined massive stroke and heart failure the moment Fox News announces him the next President. Or you could vote for Bobb Bar, LOL.

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I want to have a REAL debate, which means no conspiracy theory bull shit.

Ooh I got another vote. SUCCESS

And on a side note, that new 150mpg car coming out costs 11k. I think that's affordable enough. The Tesla Roadster is like 100k though lol

Fuggle.

lol, I've made it to McCain's level, soon to pass Obama. Fuggle for President '08!

Good show! Fuggle is staying in the race!

McCain if only because Obama smells of socialism with his health care plan.

/end before insurance rant

THANK YOU. Universal health care is dumb...

OK, where do I get me "FUGGLE '08" bumper sticker. 3rd parties rock this election!

what do you guys think about the recent eavesdropping bill and the fact obama voted for it

Gonna pass Obama soon!

I hate you all.

Oh man, I wish there was a way all three of them could win =(


If Barack O-motha****in-Obama wins: America gets a young president. We'll definitely see the economy fall FASTER THAN a lead balloon. Ideally he'll realize how corrupted everything is and due to his youth will be inspired to change things in the white house.

If McCain wins: America gets someone old enough to have been in the middle of his Career when Barry Goldwater retired. We'll definitely see even more military spending. Ideally, he'll straight talk lots of corruption out of Washington D.C.

In reality, if either of them win we'll see "more of the same" in the middle east, and more of the same economically, America will continue to be run as a business, not lead like a nation.


And Spoonman, this is just to make you happy , if there was a gun to my head and I had to pick one, it'd be McCain

Kennedy was killed before he even got to end Vietnam, talk about useless.

I think Kennedy is very overrated, he's only remembered so well because he died before most of his policies could really get put into play. Let's not forget the Cuban missile crisis and the Bay of Pigs...there was a lot of bad that Kennedy did that gets over looked because he was killed.

Oh come on, cutting taxes isn't the way you go through an economic crysis...
You need to create a way more interesting climate for businesses to operate in, and it has nothing to do with money, but only with the Federal Reserve. They just keep happyprinting money, decreasing the value of the dollar over and over again.

But a dollar with low value isn't neccesarily a sign of bad economic situation, nor is a high value a sign of good economics. Stability is more important.

Anyways, I don't know what exactly the economic program of both is, but cutting taxes is definately wrong. The US doesn't have insanely high taxes, but it spends the money they get from it completely wrong. War boosts economy, that's true, but it does increase state debt by insane amounts!

I'd vote for Obama, because if his progressive thought about abortion and gay marriage reflect his overall progressiveness, he's what the US needs on several subjects.

If you are against abortion you are a SELFISH, IGNORANT and EVIL person.
Anyone wants to argue with that, I don't think so. McCain is against abortion, which really just puts him on my list of people who are completely ****ed up.

Universal healthcare is a neccesity in a modern state. There's no need to tell people in a wheelchair to sit home all day, but there is a definate need to invest in them so they can still add value to the economy and society.

If there is no backbone you can rely on, you can never rely on your income to be there the next month, so you can't invest, plan and stuff, and you'd rather keep looking for other jobs constantly. Meaning you can never reach full potential in whatever job you're in.

I'm sure there's a lot of people who are poor because of certain diseases, accidents and illnesses. Just take multiplusclerose, it hit a neighbour of me like 20 years ago, his wife had to invest so much in special equipment, and invest so much time in it she was completely ruined by the time he died about 15 years later. And as in virtually all developed states we do have universal healthcare here in Belgium. The thing is, the costs of additional equipment weren't covered by this healthcare, which is really something society should be ashamed of!

I'm gonna have fun with this one..