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Default 02-03-2008, 09:05 PM

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He said that he wouldn't want to make a decision on environmental standards cause he donut know that greenhouse gases actually cause the damage that they say they do. Either he's getting paid by someone or he's just plain ignorant. The last ice age was brought about by a change of something like 10 degrees. We're like half way there.
You keep trying to argue with my view despite that I've said I don't really like him all that much, I'm only voting for him because I dislike him the least. You just want to start and argument with someone and I'm not biting so just give up.



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Default 02-04-2008, 02:45 AM

I'm just saying read the facts before you vote. They news channels have an agenda so don't pay to close attention to them. Heres a start...
Election Guide 2008 - Presidential Election - Politics

If you want more reading material lemme know. I personally think Ron Paul is best for the job. He's really the only one that says what they're going to do instead of what the others have done. He wants to eliminate the federal income tax and he is a non-interventionist diplomat. He is probably the only one not driven by an agenda. Hell I wish Nader would have ran again. We need a realist, a person that cares for the average American. Not some bureaucrat with an agenda that is in the interest of major corporations. We have the power of numbers, not them, and we need to put someone in power with our interest in mind. So for christ sake don't vote republican unless it's Ron Paul.




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Default 02-04-2008, 03:00 AM

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If the Dems don't nominate John Edwards then I'm voting independent.

They also don't stand a chance if they nominate Billary or Barack. If Obama had more experience he may be worth voting for, but at this point in time he is not qualified for the presidency in my eyes. Then again his inexperience can serve him well because he may not be corrupted.

Edwards is out of the race; he took himself out last Wednesday. If he supports one of the two left they might have a good shot @ winning on the Dem side.
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I'm just saying read the facts before you vote. They news channels have an agenda so don't pay to close attention to them. Heres a start...
Election Guide 2008 - Presidential Election - Politics

If you want more reading material lemme know. I personally think Ron Paul is best for the job. He's really the only one that says what they're going to do instead of what the others have done. He wants to eliminate the federal income tax and he is a non-interventionist diplomat. He is probably the only one not driven by an agenda. Hell I wish Nader would have ran again. We need a realist, a person that cares for the average American. Not some bureaucrat with an agenda that is in the interest of major corporations. We have the power of numbers, not them, and we need to put someone in power with our interest in mind. So for christ sake don't vote republican unless it's Ron Paul.
Yeah...cause the NY Times isn't biased at all and Ron Paul has no chance of winning.



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Default 02-05-2008, 01:57 AM

Yeah cause of social engineering. From what you see on TV most people don't even know who he is. He has come in second in 2 state caucuses even without media clout. Imagine if he had the corporate backing the others do. All I'm saying is seek the facts before voting blind.




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Default 02-05-2008, 05:11 AM

I'm not voting blind, so seek facts before you make accusations of people.



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Default 02-06-2008, 01:31 AM

It sure seems it spoon. You don't even know what the running platform of the candidate your going to vote for is.




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Default 02-06-2008, 08:32 AM

And here you are making an assumption again. Did, you miss the part where I said I don't fully agree with him? I think the biggest thing I'm with him on is not pulling out of Iraq, I wish he was bigger on the economy instead of pushing likability and how many people will back him but that's life. Between him and Romney I like Romney the least and thus I go with McCain, since I can't stand Obama or Clinton. Of the people who stand a chance I like him the most. Why the Hell are you on back about it? I've explained my reasoning and yet you continue to to say I don't know what's going on...I really like Ron Paul and would love to vote for him but he doesn't have a chance in Hell.



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Default 02-06-2008, 07:30 PM

He doesnt if you dont vote for him. And this is what I'm talking about exactly. The media guides you to think Mccain is one of the only ones who has a chance of winning and you vote for him even though you don't agree with his policies????? I vote for who I think will do the best job regardless of what they odds of them winning is. Every vote counts man.




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Default 02-06-2008, 09:07 PM

When I'm in California the Republican candidate never gets the electoral votes from my state anyway, so, in the primaries I vote for who has the best chance to do a good job. Don't talk about media brainwashing and shit, especially with that avatar you've had since forever, I know what's going on and I made my choice. And trying to argue this on a forum dedicated not only to video games but a specific developer is just a futile effort.



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Default 02-07-2008, 01:51 AM

I just don't get your philosophy. You say you don't agree with him.... yet you think he's going to do a good job???? Oh and are you aware your gov. is republican......doesn't seem that Californians voting republican would be to far of a pitch.




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Default 02-07-2008, 08:59 AM

I said most likely to do a good job of the ones who stand a chance...try reading what I say. Also, yeah our governor is a republican but he's also married to a Kennedy and came in right after we had the worst governor we've ever seen who was a democrat, meaning we didn't want the same crap twice. In the presidential race California always goes democrat, I'll be shocked if they turn into a red state this time.



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Default 02-07-2008, 03:35 PM

I'm still thinking about who I'm going to vote for. I like Obama surprisingly. Though I find it hard to cast my vote without studying in depth more on each candidate. I'm most worried about the economy and jobs! Those will probably be deciding factors for me.
  
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Default 02-07-2008, 10:18 PM

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He doesnt if you dont vote for him. And this is what I'm talking about exactly. The media guides you to think Mccain is one of the only ones who has a chance of winning and you vote for him even though you don't agree with his policies????? I vote for who I think will do the best job regardless of what they odds of them winning is. Every vote counts man.
Thats a great lala happy land train of thought you have. If you keep it up you might get a pony soon too.

Ron Paul doesn't stand a chance. END. OF. F'ING. STORY. Plus, while he has SOME great ideas there are still those few ideas that are just whack-nut cuckoo-fringe mumbo jumbo bullshit (aka completly disband the US military).

But feel free to piss your vote away just like people who always vote for the Green Party canidate. I support your right to vote!


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Default 02-07-2008, 11:09 PM

Tough decision but I would have to go democrat this round because after 8 years of Bush being republican, it just seems that if u want change, you'll have to pick a democrat. John McCain, most likely the gop front runner for the republicans, wont have a major factor because he does agree on most things bush says including keeping troops in the war.

on the other hand, obama and clinton do have a tight race going on. clinton wants to solve the economy first while obama fights to end the war, 2 very good candidates but i wouldn't care which 1 got nominated. as long as a democrat is president, things can get changed around. may require more spending and taxes, but the economy will speed up more and the fundings for the war will go to other big issues.



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Default 02-07-2008, 11:27 PM

And that's exactly how shitty presidents get elected, "Well, the last guy was a Republican so I'll vote Democrat!" bigdeath, if you want to rant about uneducated decisions here you go.



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Default 02-08-2008, 05:54 AM

^ and that is what makes America...America. (ignorance; for the most part.)


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Default 02-08-2008, 02:51 PM

I just hope he runs independant and splits republican vote so that criminal Mccain doesn't win.




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