YouTube - Rep. Pete Stark's Unbelievable Comments

If this doesn't warrant discussion I don't know what does.

A fitting quote.

And another.

He had a point. And then he messed up because he was so mad. Lol!

No idea how the quotes relate. Explain please.

This dude is absolutely right. Think how much the govenment treats us like idiots. I know I've said this time and time again, but think about it. How are they going to tell us that they don't have the money to fund programs such as Social Security and Medicare or that there is no money to support a universal healthcare plan like damn near the rest of earth has, when they constantly throw money at nations that hate us. We have needy people here, we have people living in sub-derelict conditions here, yet we continue to blow money on a pointless war. And for all you out there that says a universal healthcare plan won't work let Aemaeth tell you about it. Does it work for England?

It is just like what Bush says. Its the fight against "terrorism". There definitely won't be Social Security if we are terrorized by terrorist, by the acts of terrorism.

I agree, we could easily get bombed again, and all Bigdeath is worrying about is his own hide and weather there's a dollar in it.

ROFLOLMAO!

Edit: But on a more serious note, which is what I was trying to get across in our funny talk with BlueBleeder is that he obviously feels that our security and our lively-hood and our whole nation's survival is more important than Social Security.

See this is where you guys buy into Bush's load of shit. Anyone that thinks that we are in Iraq just because of terrorism is a moron. There are government officials that admit the war was largely because of oil. Look at Alan Greenspan for example. And think about it. How can you limit the war on terror to just one country. That sounds fishy in itself. There is terror all over the place. We got attacked on 911 for a reason. Why would they just conduct a random act of violence? I don't care just about myself blue. I just hate it when our government takes our tax dollars and spends them on something the majority of the country does not favor. Look at this link.
National Priorities Project - The Cost of War

Then think about how much our government says that there is just not enough money to fund programs that benefit our society. It's ludicrous! We are all just being played for fools.

I have to agree with Bigdeath on this one. The war started out with good intentions on the surface but quickly became a war that had nothing to do with terrorists. If you remember back to the start, one of the reasons that Bush gave for the war was that Iraq had secret weapons of mass destruction. In 2005 that theory was shot through and they had to move on.

Source: CIA’s final report: No WMD found in Iraq - Conflict in Iraq - MSNBC.com

We've had Korea testing missiles and proof that they have some pointed at us...do we do anything? No. We continue to fight in a country that we have zero right to be in.

Do I believe that our Country needs to protect itself against terrorists? You better believe it. But I also believe that our Country is going about it all the wrong way. We've looked in Iraq, we didn't find what we were looking for. It's time to move on. Step up our security...look elsewhere and be smart about it all. Stop wasting billions and billions of dollars and use it for good. Shit, this country is going to be in debt until the end of the Earth!

Lol. Yes I do. Oil is only an extra. Theres a word for people who doesn't believe the government is Conspiracist. Thats not far from believing that the government wants to plant chips in our brains and track our every move. I for one have seen all the Conspiracy videos about our government.

Why is he staying in Iraq so long? Well its his job, if you believes we should stay there longer to protect our ass, the so be it and stay there. If you feel that you know more about presidency than he is by all means go get elected and see if anybody votes for you.

Again.

Lol.

It's plainly obvious and if you don't understand them now you never will.

That's a rather vague term. Do you beleive EVERYTHING you are told?

Ohkay.

Vague term? Everything I'm told? I have no reasons to believe that their NOT doing the right thing. Where is the evidence. People are basing it on what an evil person would do. Maybe how you would do it. Dr.Phil can be some sort of Nazi guy, thats why hes so popular? No. I don't think so.

If you believe some Video made by some college kid with eerie talk about the government rather than the government than suit yourself. I don't believe everything I'm told thats why I don't believe you.

Heres some videos you might like about the war and 9/11.

9/11 Stuff - Government Conspiracy Videos

Knock yourselves out conspiracy theorists.

You missed my point.

They where doing the right thing in the first place, But what are they doing now?

While the war is just, The soldiers aren't.

Your army is incompetent and bloodthirsty.
This casts it in another light, no?

YouTube - Bush-Truly not concerned about bin Laden

I love how the war in Iraq is called the war on terrorism... In 2001 when our troops were deployed we were looking for Osama Bin Laden, now what are we doing? Suppressing a country and forcing a government of our own upon it in my opinion. Terrorism as our reason for war has been out the window for a few years now and the only reason we are still there is because big companies are making big money off of it.

We had absolutely no reason to go into Iraq. We have had two reasons thrown in our face. "Saddam was a brutal dictator," and he had "Weapons of mass destruction." From what I can see only the former is true and that wouldn't be our problem. If he really needed to be removed from power the US government should have done so in the first Gulf War.

In 2007 there should be only one force left in the middle east from the US. I agree we should have peacekeepers in Afghanistan to make sure the Taliban do not try to overthrow the country but even that force should be small because the Afghan army should be large enough to combat such an attempt. I guess the best thing I can compare this idea to is the "military advisors" the US sent in at the beginning of the Vietnam war. They likely wouldn't see combat and if they did it would be minimal because the Afghan army would be running the show.

I think this is a very agreeable idea because of how long our troops have been stationed over their it should no longer be a full scale guerrilla war.

Dead on!

I agree wholeheartedly. We are achieving nothing in Iraq. And ponder this if you will. Imagine they bring the war to our soil in order to save us from president bush. They try to bomb a terrorist, but instead hit your house and kill your family. Say I was the recruiter for a militant organization that opposed their occupation of our country. Because what has happened it would be very easy for me to get you to fight for my cause with great conviction. Not to mention the religious aspect of it. Another thing. If Bush is so honest why does he call himself a christian? He is a freakin Freemason. Those two don't mesh to well together. You have to look at this situation from a non-partisan perspective.