Russias Alienation Has a Long Historical Root

**Z3R0** · 05-09-2006, 04:41 PM

Ok, I am going to start a sort of debate/discusion here.

What is Russias problem, the Cold War ended a long time ago?

Why has Russia invited terrorist Hassa leaders into Moscow?

Why has Russia made military agreements clearly directed at Taiwan?

Your opinions?

**SpoonMan999** · 05-10-2006, 05:44 PM

I work with nothing but Russians and they're all pretty much assholes and pretty stupid...so I have no love for the Russians and they are on the top of my, "Why haven't we nuked them yet?" list.

**Z3R0** · 05-10-2006, 05:45 PM

LoL, maybe because they supply good liquor, what they haven't already drunken I mean.

**tigeroip** · 05-11-2006, 12:29 AM

you guys are racists, im Russian, born in Ukraine but my nationality is Russian, wtf is your problem? there are good russian people out there you just dont know them. They think the same thing about u Americans. Dont swear at me cuz of this post, im kinda in between :)

**Venom** · 05-11-2006, 12:38 AM

geez a shit load of racism occuring on d2 sector this shold be closed this seems to be ment for russian hate since it comming from zero its mostliky he wants to belittle one nationality cuz his is so ill mannered
edit
natonality racism??? does that fix the problem??/???

**BlindMansTicket** · 05-11-2006, 12:46 AM

Racism? Last time I checked, the Majority of the USA and Russia are white?

**SpoonMan999** · 05-11-2006, 05:50 AM

I have nothing against the Russian people in general but the Russian government has proven time and time again to be full of douche bags.

**tigeroip** · 05-11-2006, 11:24 AM

rofl, the russian government at least inst going into iraq and isnt killing ppl there

**Z3R0** · 05-11-2006, 01:00 PM

Who ever said this was about the Rusian people in general? This is about how they are sneaking around and trying to start more problems than the U.S. needs at the moment.

**Venom** · 05-11-2006, 02:25 PM

zero i think you need hard evidence b4 you go and say things like that
maybe provide a link with some reliable evidence?

**tigeroip** · 05-11-2006, 03:04 PM

i agreee. This is kinda noobish you arguing about russian people without providing Good source of information

**SpoonMan999** · 05-11-2006, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tigeroip

rofl, the russian government at least inst going into iraq and isnt killing ppl there

Have you ever heard of Lenin or Stalin? Or how about we talk about some of the many people the KGB killed? Also, our troops are over there protecting people and it's terrorists attacking our men...the only time we're on the offensive anymore is when we're pursuing attackers or raiding strongholds.

**Z3R0** · 05-11-2006, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Venom

zero i think you need hard evidence b4 you go and say things like that
maybe provide a link with some reliable evidence?

It was an article in the Wall Street Journal: May 2006, look it up.

**tigeroip** · 05-11-2006, 06:58 PM

yeah i heard of all those things, my question is has Russia really done anything bad lately and by lately i mean 1 year range

**SpoonMan999** · 05-11-2006, 08:14 PM

How about the things Zero mentioned? Inviting terrorist leader into Moscow and helping China take military actions against Taiwan? And since you obviously disagree with the war in Iraq how about Russian intelligence being one of the agencies to report that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction and heavily contributed to the US's decision to invade?

**Z3R0** · 05-12-2006, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpoonMan999

How about the things Zero mentioned? Inviting terrorist leader into Moscow and helping China take military actions against Taiwan? And since you obviously disagree with the war in Iraq how about Russian intelligence being one of the agencies to report that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction and heavily contributed to the US's decision to invade?

First off, the Taliban (origianly associated with Osama Bin Ladin), is not in association with Hussan; they may have had some involement with each other but Saddam has always been under inspection. Furthurmore, I never stated that I am against the war with Iraq; it is a neccesary measure, instaling a stable form of government for a nation that has been poverse and corrupted and controlled by a self-appointed military is something that has long needed to be done. If nothing else, it is probaly suspectable that certian peoples in Russia, working in concert with the Taliban, decided to get Saddam out of the picture.

**SpoonMan999** · 05-12-2006, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zerokool

First off, the Taliban (origianly associated with Osama Bin Ladin), is not in association with Hussan; they may have had some involement with each other but Saddam has always been under inspection. Furthurmore, I never stated that I am against the war with Iraq; it is a neccesary measure, instaling a stable form of government for a nation that has been poverse and corrupted and controlled by a self-appointed military is something that has long needed to be done. If nothing else, it is probaly suspectable that certian peoples in Russia, working in concert with the Taliban, decided to get Saddam out of the picture.

That last post was directed at Tigeroip not you.

**Z3R0** · 05-15-2006, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpoonMan999

That last post was directed at Tigeroip not you.

Ahh, well then this is "forwarded" to Tigeroip.

**FraterPerdurabo** · 05-16-2006, 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tigeroip

yeah i heard of all those things, my question is has Russia really done anything bad lately and by lately i mean 1 year range

1 year range? Most problems have roots way deeper than 1 year, therefore this is an ineffective timespan. Let's take a look at the previous century, for example. I think that Russia probably managed to prove that it was the greatest source of villains and scoundrels in the world.

**Z3R0** · 05-16-2006, 12:42 PM

They have also been the chief source for distilled products, though those rarley make it out to export.

05-09-2006, 04:41 PM	#1 (permalink)
Z3R0 Status: Viva La Revolucion! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In your closet. Posts: 2,342 Credits: 60 Spent time on board: :0:0 Hours Rep Power: 7	Ok, I am going to start a sort of debate/discusion here. What is Russias problem, the Cold War ended a long time ago? Why has Russia invited terrorist Hassa leaders into Moscow? Why has Russia made military agreements clearly directed at Taiwan? Your opinions? __________________ PremiumRenders.com ~ 4 All Your Render Needs

05-10-2006, 05:44 PM	#2 (permalink)
SpoonMan999 Status: Jenova Clone Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Santa Clarita, California Posts: 3,898 Credits: 375 Spent time on board: 5 Days and 0:50:36 Hours Rep Power: 14	I work with nothing but Russians and they're all pretty much assholes and pretty stupid...so I have no love for the Russians and they are on the top of my, "Why haven't we nuked them yet?" list. __________________ "I'm not a geek, I'm just coolness challenged."

05-10-2006, 05:45 PM	#3 (permalink)
Z3R0 Status: Viva La Revolucion! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In your closet. Posts: 2,342 Credits: 60 Spent time on board: Days and :0:0 Hours Rep Power: 7	LoL, maybe because they supply good liquor, what they haven't already drunken I mean. __________________ PremiumRenders.com ~ 4 All Your Render Needs

05-11-2006, 12:29 AM	#4 (permalink)
tigeroip Status: *** Elder Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 815** Credits: 110 Spent time on board: 19:16:09 Hours Rep Power: 5	you guys are racists, im Russian, born in Ukraine but my nationality is Russian, wtf is your problem? there are good russian people out there you just dont know them. They think the same thing about u Americans. Dont swear at me cuz of this post, im kinda in between :) __________________ TigerOIP

05-11-2006, 12:38 AM	#5 (permalink)
Venom Status: co-owner of my bar Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,777 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: 0:20:03 Hours Rep Power: 8	geez a shit load of racism occuring on d2 sector this shold be closed this seems to be ment for russian hate since it comming from zero its mostliky he wants to belittle one nationality cuz his is so ill mannered edit natonality racism??? does that fix the problem??/??? Last edited by Venom; 05-11-2006 at 01:00 AM.

05-11-2006, 12:46 AM	#6 (permalink)
BlindMansTicket Status: OH LAWWDY Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 2,788 Credits: 37 Spent time on board: 7:38:04 Hours Rep Power: 10	Racism? Last time I checked, the Majority of the USA and Russia are white?

05-11-2006, 05:50 AM	#7 (permalink)
SpoonMan999 Status: Jenova Clone Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Santa Clarita, California Posts: 3,898 Credits: 375 Spent time on board: 5 Days and 0:50:36 Hours Rep Power: 14	I have nothing against the Russian people in general but the Russian government has proven time and time again to be full of douche bags. __________________ "I'm not a geek, I'm just coolness challenged."

05-11-2006, 11:24 AM	#8 (permalink)
tigeroip Status: *** Elder Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 815** Credits: 110 Spent time on board: 19:16:09 Hours Rep Power: 5	rofl, the russian government at least inst going into iraq and isnt killing ppl there __________________ TigerOIP

05-11-2006, 01:00 PM	#9 (permalink)
Z3R0 Status: Viva La Revolucion! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In your closet. Posts: 2,342 Credits: 60 Spent time on board: :0:0 Hours Rep Power: 7	Who ever said this was about the Rusian people in general? This is about how they are sneaking around and trying to start more problems than the U.S. needs at the moment. __________________ PremiumRenders.com ~ 4 All Your Render Needs

05-11-2006, 02:25 PM	#10 (permalink)
Venom Status: co-owner of my bar Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,777 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: 0:20:03 Hours Rep Power: 8	zero i think you need hard evidence b4 you go and say things like that maybe provide a link with some reliable evidence?

05-11-2006, 03:04 PM	#11 (permalink)
tigeroip Status: *** Elder Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 815** Credits: 110 Spent time on board: 19:16:09 Hours Rep Power: 5	i agreee. This is kinda noobish you arguing about russian people without providing Good source of information __________________ TigerOIP

05-11-2006, 06:58 PM	#14 (permalink)
tigeroip Status: *** Elder Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 815** Credits: 110 Spent time on board: 19:16:09 Hours Rep Power: 5	yeah i heard of all those things, my question is has Russia really done anything bad lately and by lately i mean 1 year range __________________ TigerOIP

05-11-2006, 08:14 PM	#15 (permalink)
SpoonMan999 Status: Jenova Clone Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Santa Clarita, California Posts: 3,898 Credits: 375 Spent time on board: 5 Days and 0:50:36 Hours Rep Power: 14	How about the things Zero mentioned? Inviting terrorist leader into Moscow and helping China take military actions against Taiwan? And since you obviously disagree with the war in Iraq how about Russian intelligence being one of the agencies to report that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction and heavily contributed to the US's decision to invade? __________________ "I'm not a geek, I'm just coolness challenged."

05-16-2006, 12:42 PM	#20 (permalink)
Z3R0 Status: Viva La Revolucion! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In your closet. Posts: 2,342 Credits: 60 Spent time on board: Days and :0:0 Hours Rep Power: 7	They have also been the chief source for distilled products, though those rarley make it out to export. __________________ PremiumRenders.com ~ 4 All Your Render Needs

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