Priest told to prove Jesus existed in court

**Spitfire** · 01-30-2006, 10:30 AM

Being an athiest i'd love to see how someone goes about proving the existance of Jesus lol.

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Lawyers for a small-town Italian parish priest have been ordered to appear in court next week after the Roman Catholic cleric was accused of unlawfully asserting what many people take for granted: that Jesus Christ existed.
The Reverend Enrico Righi was named in a 2002 complaint filed by Luigi Cascioli after Righi wrote in a parish bulletin that Jesus did indeed exist, and that he was born of a couple named Mary and Joseph in Bethlehem and lived in Nazareth.
Cascioli, a lifelong atheist, claims that Righi violated two Italian laws by making the assertion: so-called "abuse of popular belief" in which someone fraudulently deceives people; and "impersonation" in which someone gains by attributing a false name to someone.
Cascioli says that for 2000 years the Roman Catholic Church has been deceiving people by furthering the fable that Christ existed, and says the church has been gaining financially by "impersonating" as Christ someone by the name of John of Gamala, the son of Judas from Gamala.
He also asserts that the Gospels - the most frequently cited testimony of Jesus' existence - are inconsistent, full of errors and biased, and that other written evidence from the time is scant and doesn't hold up to scholarly analysis.
Prosecutors, who in Italy are obliged to investigate such complaints, initially tried to have the case dismissed, saying no crime could be verified.
But Cascioli challenged them, and Judge Gaetano Mautone set a hearing for next Friday in Viterbo, north of Rome, to discuss preliminary motions in Cascioli's bid to have the court appoint technical experts to review the historical data and determine if Jesus really did exist.
Cascioli, 72, said in a recent interview that he decided to pursue the case against Righi, a priest in the village of Bagnoregio, near Viterbo, because the cleric had written in the parish bulletin that Jesus existed.
Asked why he went after Righi - a schoolmate when he and Cascioli were boys - and not any number of bishops, cardinals or even the pope who have asserted the very same thing, Cascioli said it didn't really matter who he named in his complaint.
"When one demonstrates that Christ didn't exist, attacking a simple priest is the same thing as attacking a bishop or cardinal," Cascioli said.

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**Mc_Blackzon** · 01-30-2006, 12:19 PM

lol that would be quite hard.... but I belive in him.

**baconbuddy** · 01-30-2006, 01:38 PM

I believe in Him too, and I wish that this game wasn't called Diablo 2 because its a great game and its story line isn't something I want to delve into that much. I just like the game cos its fun, not becasue of the storyline!

**BlindMansTicket** · 01-30-2006, 04:57 PM

I'd love to SEE* this!

*edit. my dyslexic ass didnt catch that before

**Bloodangel26** · 01-30-2006, 07:43 PM

huh? whats the point of this? why is this guy attacking the priest's beliefs? just because he tried to share them with others? who cares what other people believe, worry about yourself...

**DaCougarMech** · 01-30-2006, 11:23 PM

im an atheist too but i think that making him prove that jesus exists is unreasonable. it's like asking someone to prove whether or not god exists. i know it's not america but i think that this is a case of the government attacking religion. if you can let people believe in god, then you can let them believe in jesus if they want

**{GoK}** · 01-30-2006, 11:41 PM

I don't believe in God or jesus i say just another story made up like the greeks made up the sun god etc..etc... But i think that it would be cool if he did prove there was a jesus then id probly believe..........

**Bloodangel26** · 01-31-2006, 02:47 AM

you'd probably believe if he proved it? if he proved it you would have to believe it because it would be the truth. that would be like saying i dont believe in gravity

**ZxSlippy191** · 01-31-2006, 03:17 AM

Great, more idiots arguing over wether Jesus is real or not.

**{GoK}** · 01-31-2006, 03:24 AM

im not arguing it seems to me hes all ways posten right after i do and has something stupid to say....And sorry for the spam.

**BlindMansTicket** · 01-31-2006, 06:04 AM

To all our dismay, The Priest does actually prove that Jesus Christ actually does exist. He shows the court his drivers license and birth certificate. He's a 37 year old latino man living in Glensdale, Arizona.

GG priest (I'd do the same thing)

**DaCougarMech** · 01-31-2006, 11:26 PM

ha. i read about that guy

**Bloodangel26** · 02-01-2006, 12:18 AM

priest 1, random dude that should keep his nose out of other people's business 0

**DaCougarMech** · 02-01-2006, 12:27 AM

that's what you get for imposting your beliefs on others. how ironic

**fleaflickerx** · 02-01-2006, 12:51 AM

im a christan but i don't really pratice or do any thing i jus say i am but my parents make me go 2 church so say wut u want but this is bull shit the people and chruch throws so much shit at us ive said **** it nd i don't believe any of it

so im wit spit and DCM

**Silver Ice** · 02-01-2006, 12:57 AM

lol this kicks ass.. now the christians can find out if they've been praying for nothing... the athiests if their really gonna burn in hell, the jews... umm well i guess they might not have a hell...going...

**fleaflickerx** · 02-01-2006, 01:00 AM

is till can't gwet over this i went back and read it again and its funny as hell

**DaCougarMech** · 02-01-2006, 11:57 PM

the priest proved nothing more than that he can be weasely

**Bloodangel26** · 02-02-2006, 12:41 AM

he also proved that jesus christ exsists and lives in arizona....

**[/sarcasm]** · 02-02-2006, 01:32 AM

To all you people that are saying "yeah, this'll prove if atheists are going to hell" or "maybe I've been praying for nothing" are totally misinterpreting the lawsuit.

He isn't trying to prove whether or not Jesus Christ was the savior or that god exists or all that bullshit, he's trying to prove whether or not the person, Jesus Christ, existed or not. No real Christian ties to it, just whether or not the guy who claimed to be the son of god was alive.

Plus, that priest's response was wholly inconclusive and I wouldn't accept that if I were a judge, even though the priest is legally correct.

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BlindMansTicket Status: OH LAWWDY Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 2,788 Credits: 37 Spent time on board: 7:38:04 Hours Rep Power: 10	I'd love to SEE* this! edit. my dyslexic ass didnt catch that before Last edited by BlindMansTicket; 01-30-2006 at 07:47 PM.*

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01-30-2006, 12:19 PM	#2 (permalink)
Mc_Blackzon Status: NooB EateR Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canada/Manitoba/Winnipeg Posts: 1,006 Credits: 102 Spent time on board: 1:52:19 Hours Rep Power: 7	lol that would be quite hard.... but I belive in him.

01-30-2006, 01:38 PM	#3 (permalink)
baconbuddy Status: Veteran Join Date: May 2004 Location: home Posts: 266 Credits: 1 Spent time on board: 0:07:40 Hours Rep Power: 5	I believe in Him too, and I wish that this game wasn't called Diablo 2 because its a great game and its story line isn't something I want to delve into that much. I just like the game cos its fun, not becasue of the storyline!

01-30-2006, 07:43 PM	#5 (permalink)
Bloodangel26 Status: I am Legend. Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,279 Credits: 84 Spent time on board: 23:28:53 Hours Rep Power: 15	huh? whats the point of this? why is this guy attacking the priest's beliefs? just because he tried to share them with others? who cares what other people believe, worry about yourself...

01-30-2006, 11:23 PM	#6 (permalink)
DaCougarMech Status: I'm Delicious! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: watching you through a hole in your ceiling Posts: 2,651 Credits: 101 Spent time on board: 2:59:38 Hours Rep Power: 9	im an atheist too but i think that making him prove that jesus exists is unreasonable. it's like asking someone to prove whether or not god exists. i know it's not america but i think that this is a case of the government attacking religion. if you can let people believe in god, then you can let them believe in jesus if they want

01-30-2006, 11:41 PM	#7 (permalink)
{GoK} Status: Veteran Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 169 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: - Rep Power: 3	I don't believe in God or jesus i say just another story made up like the greeks made up the sun god etc..etc... But i think that it would be cool if he did prove there was a jesus then id probly believe..........

01-31-2006, 02:47 AM	#8 (permalink)
Bloodangel26 Status: I am Legend. Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,279 Credits: 84 Spent time on board: 23:28:53 Hours Rep Power: 15	you'd probably believe if he proved it? if he proved it you would have to believe it because it would be the truth. that would be like saying i dont believe in gravity

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ZxSlippy191 Status: The Leetness Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 466 Credits: 4 Spent time on board: 3:00:43 Hours Rep Power: 4	Great, more idiots arguing over wether Jesus is real or not.

01-31-2006, 03:24 AM	#10 (permalink)
{GoK} Status: Veteran Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 169 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: - Rep Power: 3	im not arguing it seems to me hes all ways posten right after i do and has something stupid to say....And sorry for the spam.

01-31-2006, 06:04 AM	#11 (permalink)
BlindMansTicket Status: OH LAWWDY Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 2,788 Credits: 37 Spent time on board: 7:38:04 Hours Rep Power: 10	To all our dismay, The Priest does actually prove that Jesus Christ actually does exist. He shows the court his drivers license and birth certificate. He's a 37 year old latino man living in Glensdale, Arizona. GG priest (I'd do the same thing)

01-31-2006, 11:26 PM	#12 (permalink)
DaCougarMech Status: I'm Delicious! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: watching you through a hole in your ceiling Posts: 2,651 Credits: 101 Spent time on board: 2:59:38 Hours Rep Power: 9	ha. i read about that guy

02-01-2006, 12:18 AM	#13 (permalink)
Bloodangel26 Status: I am Legend. Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,279 Credits: 84 Spent time on board: 23:28:53 Hours Rep Power: 15	priest 1, random dude that should keep his nose out of other people's business 0

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DaCougarMech Status: I'm Delicious! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: watching you through a hole in your ceiling Posts: 2,651 Credits: 101 Spent time on board: 2:59:38 Hours Rep Power: 9	that's what you get for imposting your beliefs on others. how ironic

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fleaflickerx Status: Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,924 Credits: 55 Spent time on board: 1 Day and 20:39:27 Hours Rep Power: 7	im a christan but i don't really pratice or do any thing i jus say i am but my parents make me go 2 church so say wut u want but this is bull shit the people and chruch throws so much shit at us ive said **** it nd i don't believe any of it so im wit spit and DCM

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Silver Ice Status: MS guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: abbotsford,BC Posts: 6,484 Credits: 30 Spent time on board: - Rep Power: 18	lol this kicks ass.. now the christians can find out if they've been praying for nothing... the athiests if their really gonna burn in hell, the jews... umm well i guess they might not have a hell...going...

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fleaflickerx Status: Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,924 Credits: 55 Spent time on board: 1 Day and 20:39:27 Hours Rep Power: 7	is till can't gwet over this i went back and read it again and its funny as hell

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DaCougarMech Status: I'm Delicious! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: watching you through a hole in your ceiling Posts: 2,651 Credits: 101 Spent time on board: 2:59:38 Hours Rep Power: 9	the priest proved nothing more than that he can be weasely

02-02-2006, 12:41 AM	#19 (permalink)
Bloodangel26 Status: I am Legend. Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,279 Credits: 84 Spent time on board: 23:28:53 Hours Rep Power: 15	he also proved that jesus christ exsists and lives in arizona....

02-02-2006, 01:32 AM	#20 (permalink)
[/sarcasm] Status: Eulogy Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,483 Credits: 10 Spent time on board: 0:44:57 Hours Rep Power: 6	To all you people that are saying "yeah, this'll prove if atheists are going to hell" or "maybe I've been praying for nothing" are totally misinterpreting the lawsuit. He isn't trying to prove whether or not Jesus Christ was the savior or that god exists or all that bullshit, he's trying to prove whether or not the person, Jesus Christ, existed or not. No real Christian ties to it, just whether or not the guy who claimed to be the son of god was alive. Plus, that priest's response was wholly inconclusive and I wouldn't accept that if I were a judge, even though the priest is legally correct.