Our Kids STARVED To Pay For War

**Club Nightfly** · 10-30-2005, 01:10 AM

WASHINGTON - The House Agriculture Committee approved budget cuts Friday that would take food stamps away from an estimated 300,000 people and could cut off school lunches and breakfasts for 40,000 children.

The action came as the government reported that the number of people who are hungry because they can't afford to buy enough food rose to 38.2 million in 2004, an increase of 7 million in five years. The number represents nearly 12 percent of U.S. households.

"If there are cuts to be made, why should we make them on food stamps?" said Rep. David Scott (news, bio, voting record), D-Ga. "This is the meanest cut of all."

The cuts, approved by the Republican-controlled committee on a party-line vote, are part of an effort by the House GOP to curb federal spending by $50 billion. The food and agriculture cuts would reduce spending by $3.7 billion, including $844 million on nutrition, $760 million on conservation and $212 million on payments to farmers.

"The fact is, our country is going broke," said Rep. John Boehner (news, bio, voting record), R-Ohio. "We're spending money we don't have and passing it onto our kids, and at some point, somebody's got to say, `Enough's enough.'"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051029/...6qwDW7oF;_ylu=
X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

Way to run the country into the ground, George.

Israel STILL gets its' $3+ BILLION, and OUR CHILDREN STARVE!

**Bloodangel26** · 10-30-2005, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Club Nightfly

WASHINGTON - The House Agriculture Committee approved budget cuts Friday

Way to run the country into the ground, George.

these two sentences dont seem to coincide. you blame bush for something a committee did?

**[/sarcasm]** · 10-30-2005, 01:38 AM

Another example of how Bush is blamed for EVERYTHING that goes on in the country.

**Bloodangel26** · 10-30-2005, 01:43 AM

"ouch i stubbed my toe...DAMN YOU BUSH THAT HURT!"

**ZxSlippy191** · 10-30-2005, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Bloodangel26

these two sentences dont seem to coincide. you blame bush for something a committee did?

Ahem, let's not forget who owns the Committee, and let's not forget who could've said not to take away food stamps. Thank you.

**Nubli** · 10-30-2005, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ZxSlippy191

Ahem, let's not forget who owns the Committee, and let's not forget who could've said not to take away food stamps. Thank you.

Thank you.

**Bloodangel26** · 10-30-2005, 01:59 AM

i didnt know anyone owned committees...i wasnt aware that a group of people is considered property. and he was supposed to do what? "hey committee, dont do that"?

**ZxSlippy191** · 10-30-2005, 01:03 AM

The President pretty much controls everything that goes on in America, do you not realize that? He could've stepped up and stopped the Food Stamp's from being Rejected, but what did he do. He probably sat in his office playing a Gameboy, Right?

**Club Nightfly** · 10-30-2005, 01:08 AM

Damn right lol.

"$844 million on nutrition, $760 million on conservation and $212 million on payments to farmers."

Heh, they cut 1.6 billion on good things and only 212 million on subsidies. I guess we can see how the mind of a Republican works.

**Bloodangel26** · 10-30-2005, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ZxSlippy191

The President pretty much controls everything that goes on in America, do you not realize that? He could've stepped up and stopped the Food Stamp's from being Rejected, but what did he do. He probably sat in his office playing a Gameboy, Right?

no, the president does NOT control everything that goes on. do you know anything about your government?

i'm not saying that the government has been doing a good job lately, because they have not. but you cannot blame every little thing that goes on in the country on the president. this was the committee's fault, it clearly states that the committee passed the cut

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Originally Posted by Club Nightfly

Damn right lol.

"$844 million on nutrition, $760 million on conservation and $212 million on payments to farmers."

Heh, they cut 1.6 billion on good things and only 212 million on subsidies. I guess we can see how the mind of a Republican works.

you dont think subsidies are a good thing? do you know what would happen if the government didnt pay farmers not to farm? basically the price of food would be shot to hell and literally TONS of food would rot in silo's unused.

this is a great example of the low intelligence level of those of you who blame bush for everything that goes on in the world

**qweeve** · 10-30-2005, 01:20 AM

I say end ALL social programs. No more food stamps, no more welfare. Why reward people for being lazy? Granted, there are the few cases where somebody needs a hand, but it isn't that hard to find a job. Who ever said it is the goverments job to take care of people? Does this sound harsh? Sure it does, but after the worthless die out, society will be better off. Works for nature, why not us?

**ZxSlippy191** · 10-30-2005, 01:26 AM

Who says I blame Bush for everything that happens in America / The World?

Exactly, so dont accuse me next time.

In other words, The President controls our Economy dosent he? Why is our Economy shit right now? It sure as hell wasnt because of an accident.

**Fuggle** · 10-30-2005, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Club Nightfly

Damn right lol.

"$844 million on nutrition, $760 million on conservation and $212 million on payments to farmers."

Heh, they cut 1.6 billion on good things and only 212 million on subsidies. I guess we can see how the mind of a Republican works.

This comes into play here.
President Dwight D. Eisenhower once remarked, “Farming looks mighty easy when your plow is a pencil, and you’re a thousand miles from the corn field.”

Also from what I know the President really doesn't deal much with the Comittee, It was infact started by the house.

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Originally Posted by HAC

Thus the Committee on Agriculture was created on May 3, 1820. The population of the country was about 9 million and there were 213 Representatives in the House. Seven of these Representatives, under the chairmanship of Thomas Forrest, of Pennsylvania, were assigned to the new committee. Six other States were represented in this group: Maryland, New Hampshire, New York, South Carolina, Vermont, and Virginia. (The Senate Committee on Agriculture, Nutrition, and Forestry was founded December 9, 1825.)
Lewis Williams, a Representative from Surrey County, N.C., elected to the 14th and 13 succeeding Congresses, and known as the "Father of the House," was the sponsor of the resolution proposing a Committee on Agriculture, and at the time of its introduction, April 29, 1820, he had this to say on the floor of the House:

Also the Appropriations Committee is cutting the Agriculture Committee's funding, thus causing the Agriculture Committee to cut other things to help fund their research etc.

**Club Nightfly** · 10-30-2005, 01:39 AM

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you dont think subsidies are a good thing? do you know what would happen if the government didnt pay farmers not to farm? basically the price of food would be shot to hell and literally TONS of food would rot in silo's unused.

I never said that subsidies aren't a good thing. I'm just saying, if they are cutting so much out of conservation and nutrition, why not cut more from subsidies... sure the farmers dont have it easy but they could of cut more than 212 mil, while cutting 760 mil from conservation and 844 mil from nutrition.

What i am trying to say is that, more could've been cut from subsidies and been put to soften the blow to the other two. Whether the farmers get paid more or less, they are still gonna be farming at the end of the day. If they think they aren't getting paid enough, well there are a lot of less fortunate people who'd gladly take the job and work hard for the same money.

NightHawk · 10-30-2005, 01:47 AM

Just and FYI when it says comittee. That is congress and congress alone, if it says cabinet that is the president.

As for economics, the president has little say on what goes on this is a capitist economy not a socialist economy. YES, socialism is an economic form. If you are looking for some one to blame for the economy, blame every CEO of multi million dollor corporations who outsource jobs so that can make more money they dont even use.

**Bloodangel26** · 10-30-2005, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ZxSlippy191

Who says I blame Bush for everything that happens in America / The World?

Exactly, so dont accuse me next time.

In other words, The President controls our Economy dosent he? Why is our Economy shit right now? It sure as hell wasnt because of an accident.

hmmm hypocritcal post? you just say you dont blame bush for everything then you claim he "controls" our economy.... what does he do? snap his fingers and the price of oil changes?

**ZxSlippy191** · 10-30-2005, 02:59 AM

If you recall Blood, who had a few too many of his Oil Companies or whatever go Bankrupt? *Ding Dong*

**Bloodangel26** · 10-30-2005, 06:38 AM

what does that have to do with the topic?

**DaCougarMech** · 10-30-2005, 05:54 PM

if we cut food stamps and not subsidies, wouldnt there be a massive surplus of food because we didnt feed the needy?

**ZxSlippy191** · 10-30-2005, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Bloodangel26

what does he do? snap his fingers and the price of oil changes?

That's what It has to do with the Topic.

And DaCougar, probably not.

To me, The Entire Goverment need's to grow a Brain, obviously America is going to hell, not because of this Food Stamp crisis, but other things which im not going to say because I want to stay on topic. The Goverment just needs money to fund theyre stupid War which is going nowhere as of now. If anyone opposes to that, go look up how much Debt we're in.

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10-30-2005, 01:10 AM	#1 (permalink)
Club Nightfly Status: Veteran Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: ES Guyana South America Posts: 107 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: - Rep Power: 3	WASHINGTON - The House Agriculture Committee approved budget cuts Friday that would take food stamps away from an estimated 300,000 people and could cut off school lunches and breakfasts for 40,000 children. The action came as the government reported that the number of people who are hungry because they can't afford to buy enough food rose to 38.2 million in 2004, an increase of 7 million in five years. The number represents nearly 12 percent of U.S. households. "If there are cuts to be made, why should we make them on food stamps?" said Rep. David Scott (news, bio, voting record), D-Ga. "This is the meanest cut of all." The cuts, approved by the Republican-controlled committee on a party-line vote, are part of an effort by the House GOP to curb federal spending by $50 billion. The food and agriculture cuts would reduce spending by $3.7 billion, including $844 million on nutrition, $760 million on conservation and $212 million on payments to farmers. "The fact is, our country is going broke," said Rep. John Boehner (news, bio, voting record), R-Ohio. "We're spending money we don't have and passing it onto our kids, and at some point, somebody's got to say, `Enough's enough.'" http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051029/...6qwDW7oF;_ylu= X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl Way to run the country into the ground, George. Israel STILL gets its' $3+ BILLION, and OUR CHILDREN STARVE!

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[/sarcasm] Status: Eulogy Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,483 Credits: 10 Spent time on board: 0:44:57 Hours Rep Power: 6	Another example of how Bush is blamed for EVERYTHING that goes on in the country.

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Bloodangel26 Status: I am Legend. Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,279 Credits: 84 Spent time on board: 23:28:53 Hours Rep Power: 15	"ouch i stubbed my toe...DAMN YOU BUSH THAT HURT!"

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Bloodangel26 Status: I am Legend. Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,279 Credits: 84 Spent time on board: 23:28:53 Hours Rep Power: 15	i didnt know anyone owned committees...i wasnt aware that a group of people is considered property. and he was supposed to do what? "hey committee, dont do that"?

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ZxSlippy191 Status: The Leetness Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 466 Credits: 4 Spent time on board: 3:00:43 Hours Rep Power: 4	The President pretty much controls everything that goes on in America, do you not realize that? He could've stepped up and stopped the Food Stamp's from being Rejected, but what did he do. He probably sat in his office playing a Gameboy, Right?

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Club Nightfly Status: Veteran Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: ES Guyana South America Posts: 107 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: - Rep Power: 3	Damn right lol. "$844 million on nutrition, $760 million on conservation and $212 million on payments to farmers." Heh, they cut 1.6 billion on good things and only 212 million on subsidies. I guess we can see how the mind of a Republican works.

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qweeve Status: Forum Elder Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: western, pa Posts: 524 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: 1:11:07 Hours Rep Power: 5	I say end ALL social programs. No more food stamps, no more welfare. Why reward people for being lazy? Granted, there are the few cases where somebody needs a hand, but it isn't that hard to find a job. Who ever said it is the goverments job to take care of people? Does this sound harsh? Sure it does, but after the worthless die out, society will be better off. Works for nature, why not us?

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ZxSlippy191 Status: The Leetness Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 466 Credits: 4 Spent time on board: 3:00:43 Hours Rep Power: 4	Who says I blame Bush for everything that happens in America / The World? Exactly, so dont accuse me next time. In other words, The President controls our Economy dosent he? Why is our Economy shit right now? It sure as hell wasnt because of an accident.

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NightHawk Status: Newcomer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Mexico Posts: 44 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: - Rep Power: 4	Just and FYI when it says comittee. That is congress and congress alone, if it says cabinet that is the president. As for economics, the president has little say on what goes on this is a capitist economy not a socialist economy. YES, socialism is an economic form. If you are looking for some one to blame for the economy, blame every CEO of multi million dollor corporations who outsource jobs so that can make more money they dont even use.

10-30-2005, 02:59 AM	#17 (permalink)
ZxSlippy191 Status: The Leetness Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 466 Credits: 4 Spent time on board: 3:00:43 Hours Rep Power: 4	If you recall Blood, who had a few too many of his Oil Companies or whatever go Bankrupt? Ding Dong

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Bloodangel26 Status: I am Legend. Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,279 Credits: 84 Spent time on board: 23:28:53 Hours Rep Power: 15	what does that have to do with the topic?

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DaCougarMech Status: I'm Delicious! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: watching you through a hole in your ceiling Posts: 2,651 Credits: 101 Spent time on board: 2:59:38 Hours Rep Power: 9	if we cut food stamps and not subsidies, wouldnt there be a massive surplus of food because we didnt feed the needy?