What is the most destructive and powerfull pvm class and build?

**Narzul** · 11-07-2004, 09:32 AM

Can someone tell me the more powerfull pvm class and build please? I keep remaking char but they are all weak
Oh and also good for party ^^ i hate soloing and that dont need uber rich item

HiddenFighter · 11-07-2004, 01:04 PM

probably hammerdin but frostadin can be good pvm also just use crushing blow gear with holy frost stuff like that etc for a frostadin

**Narzul** · 11-07-2004, 01:09 PM

uum the problem is i have nothing for paladin X_X lol, does frostadin need rich gear?

HiddenFighter · 11-07-2004, 01:13 PM

hmmm id have to check on it wouldnt be too rich never made one myself but i hear they can be good

more a less average class level

**Narzul** · 11-07-2004, 01:15 PM

Do you tink that orphan set, headstriker (something like that) skulder, angelic ring x2 and amulet could be good for a frostadin?

**TroGdoR** · 11-07-2004, 01:54 PM

The most self sufficient PVM build I ever played with would have to be b/w my old Windy Druid and my Zoomancer.

Arathros · 11-07-2004, 01:56 PM

If you are not gonna go solo. Almost always play in a group. I think you might want to look into a Necro. their is a poison build (link at end) that is able to do over 100,000 in damage. And yes i tested it out with the hero editor just to see if you can pull it off. now I understand you will not have five or six poison facet's so it will not be that high damage. but with the right curse'e it will still do about 30,000 and up. plus the sorc's in the group will do extra damage as well. You playing a necro would just stand back like all other spell casters and watch stuff die
http://www.d2sector.net/forums/showthread.php?t=4925

**Narzul** · 11-07-2004, 02:21 PM

ooooh, necro one sound pretty nice, il check that, thx ^^

**Rapta111** · 11-08-2004, 03:40 AM

Destructive you say? Definately a Fire Druid or a Lightning Javazon. Can you say, 0.1 hit kill?

**MonkeyXT** · 11-08-2004, 04:08 AM

One word for that...immune..

Hammerdin is a good build for its buck..not costing alot and great for pvm

**Rapta111** · 11-13-2004, 04:36 AM

He said destructive. Throwing around spinning hammers don't count.

**Bolong** · 11-13-2004, 07:59 AM

i guess wind druid, but cant kill a super unique monster w/ immune cold & physical..

**LostTrance** · 11-13-2004, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rapta111

He said destructive. Throwing around spinning hammers don't count.

When they are doing 13k damage that can't be absorbed or reduced they are pretty destructive.:

**Narzul** · 11-13-2004, 11:29 AM

Its kick a**, but i dont know... walking and raising hand making "aaah" with little hammer turning around dont make cool >_>

**smirk_zero** · 11-13-2004, 12:44 PM

hammerdins pwn all on pvm..

no exceptions.. they are godly for any monsters...

there are alot of other good pvm builds too tho

**Darth** · 11-13-2004, 12:56 PM

Are you guys forgetting a SMiterdin//Zeal? .... If you get a doom for a weapon (good for a smiterdin to freeze them) you can easily just zeal them if smiting takes too long then smite is fast as hell with fana + can go up to like 2-3k. ^_^.

And some of you forget if you have vigor + charge, you can easily just go around hammerdins and just charge right in there and smite hammerdins. Hammerdins die to a GOOD smiterdin.

**Bolong** · 11-13-2004, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth

Are you guys forgetting a SMiterdin//Zeal? .... If you get a doom for a weapon (good for a smiterdin to freeze them) you can easily just zeal them if smiting takes too long then smite is fast as hell with fana + can go up to like 2-3k. ^_^.

And some of you forget if you have vigor + charge, you can easily just go around hammerdins and just charge right in there and smite hammerdins. Hammerdins die to a GOOD smiterdin.

smiters are not really good in pvm, mybe zealers, ya.. & how bout going to chaos sanctuary, melees are like "dead man walking" with iron maiden.

Gamepro_Miller · 11-14-2004, 04:05 PM

hammerdin definitely show the most ownage.

~~ilikelilkids~~ · 11-14-2004, 04:57 PM

dude i hate pally they are hard to make its not because i dont have weopons it cause.... they suck

my bowazons kicks all ***

**SilverZX** · 11-14-2004, 05:06 PM

I don't know if anyone has said, but no hammerdin can kill as fast as a blizzard sorceress simply because of the hammer technique itself. Hammer is too unreliable to be 100% effective, I would label it 50% effective. Assuming that 100% effective is frozen orb, however orb, as reliable as it may be, doesn't deliver the BANG we need. Blizzard does this at about 85% effeciency I would say. So the sorcs still reign supreme in the realm of mass control of pvm...hammerdins may be all around better, but when it comes to purely offensive abilities, they're not above the sorcs yet.

11-13-2004, 12:44 PM	#15 (permalink)
smirk_zero Status: Veteran Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Sydney, Aus Posts: 192 Credits: 15 Spent time on board: 4:07:41 Hours Rep Power: 5	hammerdins pwn all on pvm.. no exceptions.. they are godly for any monsters... there are alot of other good pvm builds too tho __________________ The Fourth Age: Total War

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Darth Status: Veteran Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 200 Credits: 37 Spent time on board: 7:41:53 Hours Rep Power: 5	Are you guys forgetting a SMiterdin//Zeal? .... If you get a doom for a weapon (good for a smiterdin to freeze them) you can easily just zeal them if smiting takes too long then smite is fast as hell with fana + can go up to like 2-3k. ^_^. And some of you forget if you have vigor + charge, you can easily just go around hammerdins and just charge right in there and smite hammerdins. Hammerdins die to a GOOD smiterdin. __________________

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11-07-2004, 09:32 AM	#1 (permalink)
Narzul Status: Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 54 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: 0:13:29 Hours Rep Power: 5	Can someone tell me the more powerfull pvm class and build please? I keep remaking char but they are all weak Oh and also good for party ^^ i hate soloing and that dont need uber rich item

11-07-2004, 01:04 PM	#2 (permalink)
HiddenFighter Status: Newcomer Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 26 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: - Rep Power: 4	probably hammerdin but frostadin can be good pvm also just use crushing blow gear with holy frost stuff like that etc for a frostadin

11-07-2004, 01:09 PM	#3 (permalink)
Narzul Status: Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 54 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: 0:13:29 Hours Rep Power: 5	uum the problem is i have nothing for paladin X_X lol, does frostadin need rich gear?

11-07-2004, 01:13 PM	#4 (permalink)
HiddenFighter Status: Newcomer Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 26 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: - Rep Power: 4	hmmm id have to check on it wouldnt be too rich never made one myself but i hear they can be good more a less average class level

11-07-2004, 01:15 PM	#5 (permalink)
Narzul Status: Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 54 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: 0:13:29 Hours Rep Power: 5	Do you tink that orphan set, headstriker (something like that) skulder, angelic ring x2 and amulet could be good for a frostadin?

11-07-2004, 01:54 PM	#6 (permalink)
TroGdoR Status: The Burninator Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Benmark(a sub-level country underneath Denmark) Posts: 1,902 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: 3:19:14 Hours Rep Power: 8	The most self sufficient PVM build I ever played with would have to be b/w my old Windy Druid and my Zoomancer.

11-07-2004, 01:56 PM	#7 (permalink)
Arathros Status: Newcomer Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 49 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: - Rep Power: 5	If you are not gonna go solo. Almost always play in a group. I think you might want to look into a Necro. their is a poison build (link at end) that is able to do over 100,000 in damage. And yes i tested it out with the hero editor just to see if you can pull it off. now I understand you will not have five or six poison facet's so it will not be that high damage. but with the right curse'e it will still do about 30,000 and up. plus the sorc's in the group will do extra damage as well. You playing a necro would just stand back like all other spell casters and watch stuff die http://www.d2sector.net/forums/showthread.php?t=4925

11-07-2004, 02:21 PM	#8 (permalink)
Narzul Status: Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 54 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: 0:13:29 Hours Rep Power: 5	ooooh, necro one sound pretty nice, il check that, thx ^^

11-08-2004, 03:40 AM	#9 (permalink)
Rapta111 Status: The Cow King!!! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Canada!!! Posts: 1,525 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: - Rep Power: 8	Destructive you say? Definately a Fire Druid or a Lightning Javazon. Can you say, 0.1 hit kill?

11-08-2004, 04:08 AM	#10 (permalink)
MonkeyXT Status: Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 78 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: - Rep Power: 4	One word for that...immune.. Hammerdin is a good build for its buck..not costing alot and great for pvm

11-13-2004, 04:36 AM	#11 (permalink)
Rapta111 Status: The Cow King!!! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Canada!!! Posts: 1,525 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: - Rep Power: 8	He said destructive. Throwing around spinning hammers don't count.

11-13-2004, 07:59 AM	#12 (permalink)
Bolong Status: Daemon Spawn Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,243 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: - Rep Power: 7	i guess wind druid, but cant kill a super unique monster w/ immune cold & physical..

11-13-2004, 11:29 AM	#14 (permalink)
Narzul Status: Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 54 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: 0:13:29 Hours Rep Power: 5	Its kick a**, but i dont know... walking and raising hand making "aaah" with little hammer turning around dont make cool >_>

11-14-2004, 04:05 PM	#18 (permalink)
Gamepro_Miller Status: Newcomer Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 28 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: - Rep Power: 4	hammerdin definitely show the most ownage.

11-14-2004, 04:57 PM	#19 (permalink)
~~ilikelilkids~~ Status: Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: in a house... where else Posts: 454 Credits: 110 Spent time on board: - Rep Power: 0	dude i hate pally they are hard to make its not because i dont have weopons it cause.... they suck my bowazons kicks all ***

11-14-2004, 05:06 PM	#20 (permalink)
SilverZX Status: Veteran Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 127 Credits: 0 Spent time on board: - Rep Power: 4	I don't know if anyone has said, but no hammerdin can kill as fast as a blizzard sorceress simply because of the hammer technique itself. Hammer is too unreliable to be 100% effective, I would label it 50% effective. Assuming that 100% effective is frozen orb, however orb, as reliable as it may be, doesn't deliver the BANG we need. Blizzard does this at about 85% effeciency I would say. So the sorcs still reign supreme in the realm of mass control of pvm...hammerdins may be all around better, but when it comes to purely offensive abilities, they're not above the sorcs yet.