okay well, I didnt play d2 for like months so all my chars got deleted.. so im trying to get all my items back.. and iv heard that the "pit" doesnt give any good items anymore is that true? and iv heard that andy drops better items than normal now? how so? I dont have much mf and im a low lvl gotta do some more baal runs, but I was wondering wheres a good place to mf now a days? I used to just do meph runs like all day, I wasnt one for the pindle runs. I mostly just want to know where a good spot to mf for items is when you dont have much mf, I have like 150% mf and the only way im going to get better items to get mf gear would be to do mf runs so.. wheres a good spot to start off? andy?

ladder? non ladder? it depends... NM andy if ladder because she drops sojs most, and if not ladder, i guess you could start off on hell andy, shes dropped shakos for me before so thats a pretty good start

silly me I guess I forgot to mention that.. im on ladder, thx ill start doing some andy runs then.

oo....the best i ever got off hell andy is bartucs...but i only did 6 runs..lol..

andy is a good place though. you can get lotsa stuff for a starting 400mf

yup, i did hell andy on HCL with my sorc, found a shako, i was so happy, sorc died due to lag and i was sad again :(, that was cool findin shako though

my sorc had only 291 mf when she found bartucs...and that sorc isnt mine...someone lend it to me...she's wearing full tals...

lol, if you keep doing andy she will drop something good sooner or later ;) better than tucs anyway

for ladder i do:
armor-hell meph
sojs- nm andy
mid-lvl uniq-hell andy
anything i cant find there: hell pindle
runes-hell countess (she can drop any rune in the game) altho mf doesn't affect her rune droppings.

What about weapons? I have 359% mf and I've been doing nm Andy and haven't gotten too lucky. Sadly the best thing I've found is probably IK helmet thingy. I can't handle Hell Meph and I havent really tried NM Meph. Any suggestions?

are you ladder? if so keep going nm ladder, you are bound to find a soj sooner or later, or get an andy bot and have it do it for you ;), and if not ladder try to make some changes, maybe lose some mf so you can handle hell meph better

Well I'm Ladder and I've done Andy 25 times. I have yet to even find a unique ring let alone an soj. Where would I get an Andy bot? I'm kind of skeptical about using it since I lost an account from meph bot. Or does blizzard not check for this anymore?

you can grab an andy bot at http://www.blizzhackers.com you might have to do some searching, but im positive that there is one of them in there. as for blizzard not checking for bots anymore? im not sure, they probably do, but the bot is most likely undetectable

My friend got me one from blizzhackers and after a week I almost have it configured :D (I'm not the bot type.)

Well I looked for a while and I couldnt find anything there. It looks like its just a forum board and thats all.




*Ok I found it. How efficient is it?*



**OK--uh--how do I actually get it started?**

they are for the most part easy to configure anyway, i usually have no problems with em, but yeah you can pick one up at BH, and you'll probably need more than 25 times for a SoJ to drop, thats why you are either a DEDICATED MFer and mf all day by hand 24///7 :) or you do it the lazy//smart way and get a bot, hehe ;)

well poo! im not getting anything! =( im mostly just looking for sojs to trade for better items, so nm andy is what im doing she hasnt dropped anything good maybe trang gloves thats about it.. maybe I dont have enough mf? I tried doing mf runs on nm meph just to see if i could handle it.. didnt work to good i did maybe 5-8 runs and i died all but once? lmao i even did the moat trick.. the problem is i dont have enough resis! anyone know some good items that give good resis?

they are for the most part easy to configure anyway, i usually have no problems with em, but yeah you can pick one up at BH, and you'll probably need more than 25 times for a SoJ to drop, thats why you are either a DEDICATED MFer and mf all day by hand 24///7 :) or you do it the lazy//smart way and get a bot, hehe ;)

Give a quick explanation please.