I used to believe there was a higher power but after watching that movie the "Zietgiest" I've come to realize that we are our own "GOD" as some would say. So Aemaeth I with you on the we are our own Gods thing.

Don't believe in any higher powers.

i think EVRYone shod follow thier own Path and dont follow some one else .

sorry for my english ..

I believe in God as many of you know. I'm a Christian. cool:

Now to be blunt and to come off the way Pamela says I do. I think you all are stupid for being athiest, worshipping inanimate objects, or thinking when you die, you get 72 virgins and many other things that are just crazy and wild.

~End of discussion.

im agnostic. i dont believe in God but i do believe we got here somehow and there is something up there just dont know who or what it or he/she is. and when i die i think its just an eternal sleep. but thats my belief. so sue me if im wrong oh well. i dont really care

Blue, dude your coming across as one of those backrow baptist fundamentalist. One of those that follow the commandments that are convenient , but when an argument arises you lash out with great conviction. I personally don't think the bible is true. I tried the christian route ,and if you dig up some of my older post I'm sure that would apparant, but the more I read the bible and tried to understand it the more foolish I felt for putting my faith in something so illogical. My favorite paraphrasing of the whole thing is that George Carlin bit at the first of that movie,Zeitgiest, cause in all actuality thats the way it is. I fail to see how someone could place so much faith and devotion into something that cannot be logically explained or accounted for. It just seems like lunacy. I mean really now, what proof is there to debunk what is said in that movie. The bible was after all written by man, who we all well know is prone to dishonesty when there are spoils to be gained.

Oh really? And which ones am I blowing off?

Commandants I mean, I wouldn't know if you understood that.
Besides, if the bibles not true, and you dont believe it and wouldnt follow it, why would you expect me to?

Well unless you do not sin at all you are breaking commandments. I was merely using that as a generalization. It always seems to me that the people that thump the bible the most seem to be the most hypocritical. Looking for a fight to use christianity as ammunition against someone. Who knows blue, you may be different, but its been my experience that the contrary is true. And I really don't care if you follow the commandments at all. To be honest I would congratulate you on shedding the false restraints on your life.

I don't know about most hypocritcal, but you do know the only man to be perfect yet is Jesus when he walked the Earth. And some wouldn't even consider him a human. I try to follow them to the best of my ability, but even I, screw up sometimes.rolleyes:

I just don't understand how anyone could do it. The whole concept lacks logic. It's like they just instill people with the fear of an ultimate consequence for not following their "sacred rules" so people do it without question. To follow anything you don't understand blindly is foolishness in my eyes. Theirs not one shred of evidence that Christ existed, along with just about everything else in the bible yet people just accept it as fact. How could you believe in something that has such a strong case against it and no evidence supporting it. Well I guess if OJ was acquitted anythings possible.

Yes, and you can't see air without your eyes and the only thing thats telling you its there is the fact that a couple of old creepy guys say so.


And instilling fear?
Christianity is teaching them that Christ died for them and even though you do sin sometimes, if you are truly sorry then you can make it to heaven.

Air has weight and mass. You can touch it and feel it. It is required for life. If it wasn't there you would DEFINATELY know, so thats not even a valid comparison. And if christianity is the true faith, then why is it so many other theologies were built on the exact same template millenniums before the creation of christianity? I honestly want to know.

Because they couldn't explain things and so they made up stuff for it. Kind of like metalheads sun god.

But they existed BEFORE christianity. And another thing. What happened to all the people before christ? Were they destined to an eternity of hell just because they died in BC? Another thing. If we truly have free will completely independant of the control of god. Then how does he know what we are going to do? And if he doesnt know what we are going to do could you then in turn say revelations is not true? How can we follow a predetermined path if we have true free will? If you follow a path paved for you in stone do you really have free will?
And in closing I have to point out the fact that the bible was written by men, not god himself. Men lie and are power hungry. Religion is the perfect tool to make people step in line. The bible just seems like it was written to tell people to step in line or suffer the ultimate consequence. What better way could you think to get people to obey?

Your thing is all jumbled pile of words, so I'll address the things that I think you were talking about.
Before Christ, there were always followers and the like preaching the word of God. Period. Just weather it was under a different name or not.

Also, I believe that God knows the outcomes of what would happen if we do a certain thing. So like we are presented with a fork in the road, God will know what would happen if we went left or right, but doesn't know exactly what would happen.

And revelations is an outcome we can't stop. No matter what we do, humans will destroy ourselves and Revelations will come to pass.

And in a closing points. If you're a Christian, you know that God influenced the Bible writers at all times for them to write the Bible. So in reality, God wrote it. Otherwise I don't know what else to say, if you want to play the Bible was written by men card, then go ahead.

But if someone were to come out today and said they wrote a passage inspired by god would you believe them? I don't know anyone that would. What is the proof that 2000 years ago it wasn't fraud as well. Also, if god knew we would eventually destroy ourselves and innevitably suffer, wouldn't that really seem more like the actions of an evil entity? Or sadistic at the least. Another point supporting this is the fact we all suffer because of the actions of adam and eve. Why should we pay penance for something we had no control over. The whole thing reeks of bullshit.

i think peaple wo seek truth shood seek it inside them selves , i mean . they seek truth somewhere else . they belive more in a " god " '- higherpower' then them selves. thats just whaty i think , sorry for my english

I believe in God as many of you know. I'm a Christian. cool:

Now to be blunt and to come off the way Pamela says I do. I think you all are stupid for being athiest, worshipping inanimate objects, or thinking when you die, you get 72 virgins and many other things that are just crazy and wild.

~End of discussion.

Please i beg you , Awser my question

Why do you belive in " god "

whats your reason?
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if u dont whant to just dont
i just whant to know why so many peple are so odd they seek trueth from some one but them selves.

i dont believe in higher powers

i feel that the concept of higher powers is as artificial as the religions that subscribe to it

How could you not believe in a higher power.Do you think that something as ordered and as beautiful as mathematics could have been created by random chance?So maybe the "higher Power" is not something like what is found in any of the holy books,but an almagamation of everyting found in all holy books.In other words,you gotta seperate the wheat from the chaff.All of the holy books that I know of talk about creation,even the ones predating christianity,likeSumerian,jewish,egyptian,ect.If there is no higher power,the creation "mythos" is the longest lasting,most enduring myth out there.Basically,it has existed from the dawn of recorded history,until present day,and its still going strong.Maybe the "higher Power is not even a god as we understand a god to be.Maybe it is a genetically,technologically advanced entity who seeded the universe with their genetic material,in order to ensure that there was some company for Itself in the future.Any account of anything written by mankind has to be taken with a grain of salt,as we are only human,and o so fallible.But to make a blanket statement that you dont believe in a higher power,and to not give any reasons except antireligious ones,shows severe closemindedness.

I would consider it more of an energy rather than some crazy genetic mutation. But to believe some of these religions out there just seems ludicrous. They just sound too much like something of a fable.