Lol I suck balls lol.

this is a very nice guide i mite you this as soon as i can get my hand on a hoz.
i think it deserves a sticky.
nice job.

I don't usually comment on guides, but this is one of the better ones out there not made by a complete idiot. I must say though I find smite vs smite duels boring. What do you do when someone bms though? ... 10/10 gm guide.

Had a quick read through because I'm in a hurry. Looks nice, excellent work, I'll sticky it. By the way, you should duel Camden, he's the best Smiter that I know of and I think he plays East.

edit: Meh, at another look, there are some serious mistakes:
1) Block is unnecessary in Smite v. Smite. 5% or 75% will not change the outcome, since Smite is unblockable.
2) Defiance is a bad option, Resist Fire and Lightning are far better.

edit2: Actually your guide is pretty garbage and I feel like unstickying it now.

Where is Holy Freeze?
What about FHR% breakpoints? You need 86% to take on any serious Smiter.
Why Salvation? Waste of points.
You need way more than 1 point in Vigor, so 1 in Charge is enough. Since this is SvS, you should max Vigor instead of Resist Auras.

I'm unsticking this right now. Try to know what you're talking about before you write a guide.

On a side note, I didn't know people still used F buttons for skills xD

Good guide, but i dont agree with two things.
The pcskillers is more important than you think, ive tried alot of different inventory equips and full pclifers+rest 20lifer's works best for me , since the dmg will go much higher and u get more points for HS=more block so u wont need that much dex, trust me its better using full of pc lifers in inventory than 20 lifers sc's and less dex=more vit.
The other thing is its stupid to max Defiance.. you wont need that at all.

Nice guide, but if its SvS why salvation?
8/10

Edit,Off topic:
LOL!! i just saw the guys sig above me

Eh, as frater already put, this guide is kinda crap, though you got the point across. But i'll gladly take on your smiter, /w xqs_me3.

I didn't notice the fhr breakpoints I just skimmed through the guide and it looked great at first glance but then I noticed your fhr breakpoints arent too good as frater says, its pretty bad. I agree with max block though most dins are bm and they will charge you and it will hurt. ALOT. Unless you only plan on doing priv gm duels then I would shoot for max block. I'll give this guide a 5/10

edit: Meh, at another look, there are some serious mistakes:
1) Block is unnecessary in Smite v. Smite. 5% or 75% will not change the outcome, since Smite is unblockable.


Want to bet?


2) Defiance is a bad option, Resist Fire and Lightning are far better.


:-P Did you not see my quote near the top of the guide. I didn't say this was for Smite Vs Other class.


edit2: Actually your guide is pretty garbage and I feel like unstickying it now.


:P


Where is Holy Freeze?


I've never seen a smiter w/ holy freeze get very far, and I certainly hope you don't mean with doom.


What about FHR% breakpoints? You need 86% to take on any serious Smiter.


You are right, I should have included this. It's up there now :)


Why Salvation? Waste of points.
You need way more than 1 point in Vigor, so 1 in Charge is enough. Since this is SvS, you should max Vigor instead of Resist Auras.


This is NOT Smite Vs Other class, again; Congratz though, you've officially confused me.

You acknowledge it's a SvS guide right about here, after proving yourself wrong on having to max the resistance aura's for vsing other classes.. So then you rule out that addition and say.. Okay, max vigor. Well lets see bro, now that we had to max vigor instead, why not 1 point in salvation? If your @ a sorc, the fanaticism on or off doesn't really matter at all. But then again, you recommended vigor on an SvS. This is a good mannered guide and on USeast Ladder GM we do not charge start, note the title.


I'm unsticking this right now. Try to know what you're talking about before you write a guide.


Love the last line, try to know what you're READING before you write a response. Thanks! I'm obviously not doing anything wrong if I'm undefeated; My same level 90 smiter with no block whatsoever, pure vita, sucked ass. Same build; without the block. Most people who faced me and lost even noticed they did better with more block. Lol; My block in this way being said isn't for blocking a total hit thus not being hit, as smite can not be blocked; I'm aware. But in some manner it seems to make it withstand some damage if that's correct. If it's really that important I could write an FHR build, but I've vsed one after you told me this and they got raped.


On a side note, I didn't know people still used F buttons for skills xD

F5/F6 transition helps.. ;) Their on standard keyboards that aren't broken up by kiddoes losing smite duels.

It's better, but you obviously still don't know what the **** you're talking about. Fact is, your knowledge about Smiters is next to minimal. I recommend you try to find out a little before writing a guide. This guide is a good one to start with:
d2jsp Forums -> My Final Smiter Guide. (http://forums.d2jsp.org/index.php?showtopic=4415997)
Read it. Unlike you, he knows how to make a Smiter.
Want to bet?
Don't be stupid. Smite is unblockable. Besides blocking a blockable attack, blocking does not do anything else.


:-P Did you not see my quote near the top of the guide. I didn't say this was for Smite Vs Other class.
So you recommend an option that you know is a bad choice anyway? Way to go.


I've never seen a smiter w/ holy freeze get very far, and I certainly hope you don't mean with doom.
Piece of advice, leave pubs and seek out good duelers. Get torn apart and practice more so that you get better. Any serious Smiter will rip you a new asshole if you don't have Holy Freeze.

You are right, I should have included this. It's up there now :)
There is no such thing as a FHR build and a non-FHR build, because truth is that one works and other one doesn't.


This is NOT Smite Vs Other class, again; Congratz though, you've officially confused me.
Then why include it?

You acknowledge it's a SvS guide right about here, after proving yourself wrong on having to max the resistance aura's for vsing other classes.. So then you rule out that addition and say.. Okay, max vigor. Well lets see bro, now that we had to max vigor instead, why not 1 point in salvation? If your @ a sorc, the fanaticism on or off doesn't really matter at all. But then again, you recommended vigor on an SvS. This is a good mannered guide and on USeast Ladder GM we do not charge start, note the title.
Where did I prove myself wrong? You include bullshit in your guide and when I point out that you're wrong, with the intention of helping you, you adopt the smartass approach. Congratulations.
No, you don't use Salvation against sorcs. It's ****ing stupid. When you Charge, you need to have:
a) enough damage so that they go into their FHR.
b) enough AR so that you will actually hit him.
Both of these are achieved through Fanatiscm. Then again, if you have a "gosu SvS with max block" then you would have enough DEX to hit a sorc with 2k def anyway.


Love the last line, try to know what you're READING before you write a response. Thanks! I'm obviously not doing anything wrong if I'm undefeated; My same level 90 smiter with no block whatsoever, pure vita, sucked ass. Same build; without the block. Most people who faced me and lost even noticed they did better with more block. Lol; My block in this way being said isn't for blocking a total hit thus not being hit, as smite can not be blocked; I'm aware. But in some manner it seems to make it withstand some damage if that's correct. If it's really that important I could write an FHR build, but I've vsed one after you told me this and they got raped.
I truly "lol'ed"

Even though you apparently put effort into this guide, you still don't know what you're talking about, how to make a Smiter, or how to duel with one. Hence, loads of room for improvement. 2/10.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHA this is one of the biggest pieces of shit that has been posted in character development in a while, i'll enjoy ripping your piece of shit guide to pieces but before i do that i'll flame all of the morons who posted here.

this is a very nice guide i mite you this as soon as i can get my hand on a hoz.
i think it deserves a sticky.
nice job.

Retard, did you even read the guide or play d2 as a matter of fact?

Good guide, but i dont agree with two things.
The pcskillers is more important than you think, ive tried alot of different inventory equips and full pclifers+rest 20lifer's works best for me , since the dmg will go much higher and u get more points for HS=more block so u wont need that much dex, trust me its better using full of pc lifers in inventory than 20 lifers sc's and less dex=more vit.
The other thing is its stupid to max Defiance.. you wont need that at all.

HAHAHAHAH Pc skillers? :D:D:D:D:D:DD:D: pc skillers on a smiter = A BIG RED NOOB

You don't need almost any points in dex if you are gonna go with hoz block and more points in hs doesn't increase your chance to block, refer to arreat summit before you post noob.

Ye, at least you are correct about not maxing defiance.

Nice guide, but if its SvS why salvation?
8/10

Edit,Off topic:
LOL!! i just saw the guys sig above me

Nice guide my ass, go mf more.

I didn't notice the fhr breakpoints I just skimmed through the guide and it looked great at first glance but then I noticed your fhr breakpoints arent too good as frater says, its pretty bad. I agree with max block though most dins are bm and they will charge you and it will hurt. ALOT. Unless you only plan on doing priv gm duels then I would shoot for max block. I'll give this guide a 5/10

Well you redeemed yourself but 5/10 is way too high for this guy although if this is smite vs smite only smiter then you won't need the block at all.

First of all refer here to see what works and what doesn't work with smite:
d2jsp Forums -> What Does, Does Not, And What's Hidden With Smite (http://forums.d2jsp.org/index.php?showtopic=3532193)

Then look at this guide, written by the person who used to be the nr. 1 smiter on east before he came to europe:
d2jsp Forums -> My Final Smiter Guide. (http://forums.d2jsp.org/index.php?showtopic=4415997)

Have a look at someones guide who is not a self proclamed retard such as yourself.

I bet you are one of those people who "doesn't believe in breakpoints" and totally ignores them. :D I've seen too may of those guys on these forums.

K, i'll point out what's wrokg with your guide:

1. smite is unblockable.

2. best smite vs smite shield is phoenix for the ed, if you are going sticktly smite vs smite then that's the shield you should be using, upped hoz is not a smite vs smite item.

3. Treks + coa >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dancers + shako

4. 20life/11light or 11cold and 20life/5all resi scs are all you need for smite vs smie plane 20 lifers will do.

5. rofl how does exile give more damage? :D hoz has 20 str = 20% ed.

6. Holy freeze is a must have in smite vs smite and no it's not concidered bm. It's widely known fact that skilled holy freeze is gm.

7. In a smite vs smite duel it's recommended to stack ias and use a grief pb . armageddon slippers, mara and other ammys are not for this build.

VS Me on opened I'll rip you a new asshole guaranteed, or east ladder. Your pic? ;)


I'd love to see your "t3h l33t smit3rs" that are so damn great. No game so far?

Get your ass on diablo and stop talking shit.

[quote=FaggotPerdurabo;415117]It's better, but you obviously still don't know what the **** you're talking about. Fact is, your knowledge about Smiters is next to minimal. I recommend you try to find out a little before writing a guide. This guide is a good one to start with:
d2jsp Forums -> My Final Smiter Guide. (http://forums.d2jsp.org/index.php?showtopic=4415997)
Read it. Unlike you, he knows how to make a Smiter.

Lmao, that guide blows ass. And his technique is much different then yours. Didn't you say MAX vigor? LMAO!



Don't be stupid. Smite is unblockable. Besides blocking a blockable attack, blocking does not do anything else.


No shit? Lol. Cool your jets. WTF is the point of dex is block is not needed?


So you recommend an option that you know is a bad choice anyway? Way to go.


Piece of advice, leave pubs and seek out good duelers. Get torn apart and practice more so that you get better. Any serious Smiter will rip you a new asshole if you don't have Holy Freeze.


MMK. And that smiter isn't you right? LMAO


There is no such thing as a FHR build and a non-FHR build, because truth is that one works and other one doesn't.


I just included it as an alternate to what i originally posted dumb ass.



Then why include it?


Where did I prove myself wrong? You include bullshit in your guide and when I point out that you're wrong, with the intention of helping you, you adopt the smartass approach. Congratulations.
No, you don't use Salvation against sorcs. It's ****ing stupid. When you Charge, you need to have:
a) enough damage so that they go into their FHR.
b) enough AR so that you will actually hit him.
Both of these are achieved through Fanatiscm. Then again, if you have a "gosu SvS with max block" then you would have enough DEX to hit a sorc with 2k def anyway.


I truly "lol'ed"

Ditto.

Even though you apparently put effort into this guide, you still don't know what you're talking about, how to make a Smiter, or how to duel with one. Hence, loads of room for improvement. 2/10.


MmmK? Lets see you duel me. Idc. I didn't think you'd respond to the offer. At all. Words aint much bro.

Since you don't direct your posts to anyone i have no idea whether you were challenging me or not.. anyway i used to play europe ladder and i still have a bvc left there... turned to wow now. You are welcome to challenge my bvc if you want. :D

Strange, "Camden" here is already taken. Anyways.

d2jsp Forums -> My Final Smiter Guide.

^ Use this shitty guide instead. Laff.

Hah? You're calling my guide shitty when mine has almost nothing but generally positive feedback whereas yours is torn to shreds. Envy?
I wish you hadn't edited it before I could come and pick it apart myself.

Btw, on east ladder, back when the GOOD smiters were still around (steve, bobcraig, violations, smalls...; a few of us from nl came up when we found out how to xfer nl -> ladder), smite v smite WAS INDEED CHARGE START. If you wanna do shitty shift-click duels make a zealer or fury-vs-melee druid.

I think it's hilarious when you flame my guide saying you've beaten me then after I've proven our smiters weren't even around in the same time; then you start to act all nice, ask me to edit out calling you a random, even offered me gear? Then come back here to see you talk shit.

If you think you're even on the same level as me with your .11b ladder ubersmiter, you're dead wrong.

I've not played a smiter for ages, and I really had no intention of doing so again, but I have an offer for you. If you really want to duel, hook up d2pk. I'll gear up a shitty smiter exactly like the ladder one I had and thoroughly trash your smiter and the rest of your account.

Apologies to the rest of this forum for my arrogance, but kids like this 'swo0osh' here need to know their place and be put there.

Or if you're really feeling ballsy, try my ladder ele with your "SvS" smiter. There's no point whatsoever to a pure smite v smite build, that's an excuse for people who suck too much to go vs all.

Also, mainaman's calling you out in that thread on jsp. I remember having great duels vs his bvc. Will you dodge him too?

Btw the best smiter currently on ladder is Max (he remade by my guide ^^). He's the only one that still puts up a challenge. It's not you. Sorry.

Loits... I know that smite can't be blocked it can only be blocked with dual claws what I was trying to say is that if you didn't have max block when dueling a smiter he could just whittle you down with charge he could desynch at you hit you hard with charge then desynch away. Hell I could probably kill any smiter even with shitty gear just using charge alone against a non max block smiter. I find it to be a serious disadvantage not using max block. If you wish to argue then we can go on open, you can make a nice non max block smiter and I'll make a half assed one and I could more then likely kill you with just charge alone and won't even need to use smite or I could drain you down enough with charge to go in for the kill with smite. However if this was strictly a gm smite vs smite duel things would be quite different.

Yadda, yadda
You know, I was trying to be nice to you before, but you did manage to show your lack of maturity and skill (yes, this is a D2 forum). Go and delete your smiter, it will be better for you.

Injoy, and I wish you more luck in further ventures, you'll seriously need it.

Loits... I know that smite can't be blocked it can only be blocked with dual claws what I was trying to say is that if you didn't have max block when dueling a smiter he could just whittle you down with charge he could desynch at you hit you hard with charge then desynch away. Hell I could probably kill any smiter even with shitty gear just using charge alone against a non max block smiter. I find it to be a serious disadvantage not using max block. If you wish to argue then we can go on open, you can make a nice non max block smiter and I'll make a half assed one and I could more then likely kill you with just charge alone and won't even need to use smite. However if this was strictly a gm smite vs smite duel things would be quite different.
You can do much better than this. What a dire attempt of a comeback =\

Eh, whatever you say, but like I said if you wish to prove me wrong then please by all means do so we can go on open anytime you wish and I'll demonstrate this myself. This would only happen if I knew I was at a serious disadvantage and know that I cant kill the smiter in a regular smite vs smite duel from not having the proper items but if it was just a straight smite vs smite gm duel then things would be completely different and I would get my ass handed to me.

Eh, whatever you say, but like I said if you wish to prove me wrong then please by all means do so we can go on open anytime you wish and I'll demonstrate this myself. This would only happen if I knew I was at a serious disadvantage and know that I cant kill the smiter in a regular smite vs smite duel from not having the proper items but if it was just a straight smite vs smite gm duel then things would be completely different and I would get my ass handed to me.
I don't consider myself a skilled Smiter by any standard, but sure, I'll try to fire up a Smiter soon enough and we could have some fun with SvS. No max block = more life > all in PvP. Just my view on the issue.

Eh, whatever you say, but like I said if you wish to prove me wrong then please by all means do so we can go on open anytime you wish and I'll demonstrate this myself. This would only happen if I knew I was at a serious disadvantage and know that I cant kill the smiter in a regular smite vs smite duel from not having the proper items but if it was just a straight smite vs smite gm duel then things would be completely different and I would get my ass handed to me.

If you use a pb grief (my choice) then you'll have max block with zaka by deafult, i don't give a damn about your challenge. You really think that having no points in dex makes you have 0% block? Just don't freaking post in char development any more, my point was that smite is not a blockable attack unlike that dude who claimed otherwise.

If you use a pb grief (my choice) then you'll have max block with zaka by deafult, i don't give a damn about your challenge. You really think that having no points in dex makes you have 0% block? Just don't freaking post in char development any more, my point was that smite is not a blockable attack unlike that dude who claimed otherwise.I'm talking about a smiter that DOESN'T HAVE MAX BLOCK I'm not talking about anything else ( Read my posts above ) I really hate it when people don't read my post or when they do they talk about other random shit that doesn't even relate to my post I said dueling a smiter that doesn't have max block I could probably kill just by using charge do you understand now? I know that just having 0 points in dex doesn't give zero block % I know that. All my point was is that dueling a low block smiter with just charge can be done if you know how to do it. I'm not trying to start an argument with anyone here thats just all I was just trying to prove, and if you disagree otherwise then we can go on open and you can prove me wrong.

Frater, that sounds like alot of fun =] I'll fix one up on open eventually when I get the time. I'm not too sure about easts bugged items but when I make it do you wanna use bugged items or legit items? I'll need to look up some of easts bugged items if you do because I dont know many.