-%defense is pointless.
Let's say that with all gear:
Iron Skin gives 350%ed
Shout gives 350%ed as well.

So 700% - 25% = 675% left.
Big ****ing deal!

well i just got owned in teh face, lol but it does do sometihgn lol , its not completely pointless

Don't argue with frater... you'll lose

Don't argue with frater... you'll lose
lol

Don't argue with frater... you'll lose

your rep goes down real fast -_-

potatoes i would have to agree with you lol

Botd is so popular lol, most people still think Botd>Grief. keke

lol, i love botd, and imo, frater says 90% gear and 10% skill, that 10% is the most important out there... i have yet to be downed by a grief using bvb...... so id still choose botd over grief lol