Wow this turned from a flame war to a nice little chit chat on philosophy. Look pam don't take me so seriously. I just thought you wanted a flame war so I came out full steam ahead. If I offended you or hit a nerve i'm sorry. It almost seemed as if your last post had a somber timbre to it. If I come across as a little belligerent sometimes its usually because I post something just joking around, it gets taken too seriously, and the retributive post end up pissing me off so I run with it. It happens alot around here and its funny how easily people are offended about it.