Fenix, the issue of when D1 came out, is of no concern to me. Clan Dark Alliance started on D1 4 years ago. The current active members are from the original Dark Alliance, with a smattering of other d1 clan members thrown in ie: Slayer, ***, an HF. If ya need to Vouch or recieve Confirmation of our start, feel free to ask ELDiablo(HF) on USWest. As one of the longeset running clans that i know of, I'm sure you can trust his word. As far as the others who replied, thanx for the interest, feel free to pm your info, an how much you game. We are looking for active gamers, as most of us play every night after work ect. If ya can't find me on East NL Sc under this account name, feel free to Visit op Clan-D)A( on Monday nights @ 9:00pm est. when we have our meetings. Once again, Fenix, Thanx for your insight on how long D1 has been around. But as the info has nothing to do with the start of -D)A(, I fail to see the usefulness of your post, other than to try an mock my search for serious friend based gamers. Thanx for all the interest so far :)